08-12-2016, 09:23 AM
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#10261
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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I think that had Obama lost the last two debates we'd be looking at President Romney (thanks binders full of women!). So it was definitely closer than you're making it out to be. As to media outlets bending over backwards to make Trump look legitimate, if that were true they'd be spending more time hammering Hillary to bring her down. The big difference post convention is her net approval has improved between 6 and 10 points depending on the poll, while Trump's is the same or worse. There's almost nothing the media can do to make Trump look legitimate, other than hammering Hillary which they haven't done outside the usual GOP forces (like Hannity this week having "medical experts" on to dissect Hillary's health).
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08-12-2016, 11:16 AM
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#10262
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Not Taylor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Calgary SW
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If Trump is constanly "joking" or being "sarcastic", how can anyone trust anything he says?
"I will help the poor..."
"I was being sarcastic!"
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08-12-2016, 12:39 PM
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#10263
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Trump on the stump claiming 18 years ago jobs and the economy was much better. So who was the president 18 years ago Donald?
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08-12-2016, 12:45 PM
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#10264
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Trump all over the map with his speech again. Jerbs jerbs then switches to building up the military and making it great to massive cheers then back to jerbs.
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08-12-2016, 12:48 PM
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#10265
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I think Trump is losing his mind.
Probably thinks the polls are the fault of the people trying to control him to get on message.
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08-12-2016, 12:50 PM
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#10266
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Trump is giving every conceivable signal to the GOP that he wants out of this race, yet they seemingly refuse to do anything about it.
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08-12-2016, 01:02 PM
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#10267
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Trump is giving every conceivable signal to the GOP that he wants out of this race, yet they seemingly refuse to do anything about it.
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They can't ask him or tell him, he needs to quit on his own.
Also, I don't think the GOP is crazy about running with a different candidate anymore. Their other guys already lost to this guy. The new guy would be at a huge disadvantage, having to quickly staff and fund a huge campaign. And if the new guy lost, the optics would be even worse for the GOP.
Trump was not favoured by large parts of the party elite. Everyone knows this. They can with some credibility distance themselves from the upcoming loss in a way they couldn't do with another candidate.
At this point it's probably just best for them to focus on minimizing the losses and blame everything on Trump alone.
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08-12-2016, 01:22 PM
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#10268
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Who would they run? Both Rubio and Cruz would still likely get smoked by Clinton. Better to keep Ryan tucked away for 2020.
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08-12-2016, 01:23 PM
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#10269
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Who would they run? Both Rubio and Cruz would still likely get smoked by Clinton. Better to keep Ryan tucked away for 2020.
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Or dust off Willard.
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08-12-2016, 01:36 PM
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#10270
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Trump is the worst candidate ever and he was polling basically even with Hillary before his total meltdown these last few weeks. If the GOP fields Rubio or Ryan I think they have a pretty decent chance of winning. You have to remember swapping Trump out means the entire conversation switches to being about Trump's ridiculousness back to focusing more on Hillary. And that's a problem for the Dems.
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08-12-2016, 01:39 PM
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#10271
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Trump is the worst candidate ever and he was polling basically even with Hillary before his total meltdown these last few weeks. If the GOP fields Rubio or Ryan I think they have a pretty decent chance of winning. You have to remember swapping Trump out means the entire conversation switches to being about Trump's ridiculousness back to focusing more on Hillary. And that's a problem for the Dems.
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Unless Trump runs as a 3rd party. Could he? If he could he'd steal votes.
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08-12-2016, 01:45 PM
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#10272
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Hillary is going to win states like California and Illinois and New York by huge margins, and Trump is going to win traditional red states by smaller than normal margins (see Utah). If Trump wins it's almost certainly a Bush situation of winning the electoral college, but losing the popular.
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He could put Arizona, Georgia, Utah, and even Kansas into play.
I think HRC will win 40ish states.
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08-12-2016, 01:46 PM
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#10274
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Yeah judging by the all-in nature of the current American political climate, one would guess that if Trump left/got the boot, a lot of crazy people would follow him out the door.
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08-12-2016, 01:46 PM
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#10275
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Who would they run? Both Rubio and Cruz would still likely get smoked by Clinton. Better to keep Ryan tucked away for 2020.
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Rubio would have easily beaten Clinton.
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08-12-2016, 01:46 PM
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#10276
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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It will cost him tons of his own money to run third party, so that's never happening. Oh and this happened at that rally...
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Sopan DebVerified account
@SopanDeb
Trump says he was "obviously" being sarcastic about "founder of ISIS" comments but then says "but not that sarcastic."
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https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/764176463230803968
Michael Moore wrote a letter to Ivanka asking her to intervene because it's obvious her dad has serious mental issues. GOP can dump him by adding a mandatory mental health exam for all candidates. Trump would fail spectacularly.
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08-12-2016, 01:47 PM
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#10277
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Rubio would have easily beaten Clinton.
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Not now though with no time to organize. There's just not enough time anymore to start a new campaign
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08-12-2016, 01:49 PM
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#10278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
It will cost him tons of his own money to run third party, so that's never happening. Oh and this happened at that rally...
https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/764176463230803968
Michael Moore wrote a letter to Ivanka asking her to intervene because it's obvious her dad has serious mental issues. GOP can dump him by adding a mandatory mental health exam for all candidates. Trump would fail spectacularly. |
Michael Moore is JUST as big a narcissist as Trump...
Besides:
http://www.independent.co.uk/us/dona...-a7184631.html
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08-12-2016, 01:52 PM
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#10279
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
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Do you think he could pass a mental health exam?
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08-12-2016, 01:54 PM
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#10280
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by peter12
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Moore is a lot of things, but you'd have an awful lot of trouble explaining that one
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