2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just don't think this is the time to get a guy who we need to revive to get their careers going.

Maybe in the offseason we are having enough issues with the coach and his ability to get this team playing a cohesive game.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Jonathan Drouin with 3 pts puts himself over 0.5ppg on the season. If he is a buy low option I still think that makes some sense. I am just going to assume he and Huberdeau are close friends as they are similar age, from Quebec and are both repped by Walsh.

Would he cost a 4th rounder and low end prospect if he comes 50% retained?

I don't think he's the kind of guy that would excel under Daryl.
That being said, I've always been a fan, and think he could be an intriguing add for what I assume would be a pretty small ask.

[TheScorpion]

Sure feels like there are a lot of players in this league who aren't the kind of guys who would excel under Darryl.

[Harry Lime]

I remember that one playoffs where Druoin found a cheat code, and then he's been a shadow of that player ever since. Maybe Darryl is exactly what he needs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Sure feels like there are a lot of players in this league who aren't the kind of guys who would excel under Darryl.

It's what happens when you have grit and grind coach coaching in the skilled era we have seen.

He should be adapting his style to the players he has not forcing his view on how he likes it played.

Frustrating coach

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Jonathan Drouin with 3 pts puts himself over 0.5ppg on the season. If he is a buy low option I still think that makes some sense. I am just going to assume he and Huberdeau are close friends as they are similar age, from Quebec and are both repped by Walsh.

Would he cost a 4th rounder and low end prospect if he comes 50% retained?

Yeah cost would be cheap for sure. A lot of media in Montreal seems to think Drouin's career is pretty much done.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Sure feels like there are a lot of players in this league who aren't the kind of guys who would excel under Darryl.

Johnny Gaudreau was supposedly one of those players

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Johnny Gaudreau was supposedly one of those players

Johnny played well defensively (Darryl once called him our best checker), and gave full effort every night, which is the exact opposite of Drouin.

[bigrangy]

Make the cap work and I’d be happy to take Drouin back with the conditional first that was just burning a hole in the team’s pocket. Mtl can even have a second.

[Goriders]

Drouin has too many red flags attached to him.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Johnny Gaudreau was supposedly one of those players

Gaudreau was different because he just wasn't big, or rough and tumble (and therefore not a prototypical Sutter guy). He always came to play and put in a great effort though.

Drouin seems to go long stretches where he looks disinterested, or unengaged, which I don't think Sutter appreciates (as shown by Ruzicka's playing time lately).

[Poe969]

Johnny was also in a contract year. It's crazy how so many players have great years when they need a new contract. And as so many people pointed out, that first line didn't play Sutter brand hockey and that's why they got so many points.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Johnny played well defensively (Darryl once called him our best checker), and gave full effort every night, which is the exact opposite of Drouin.

Recency bias in a contract year.

No. No he did not over his contract term.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Johnny was also in a contract year. It's crazy how so many players have great years when they need a new contract. And as so many people pointed out, that first line didn't play Sutter brand hockey and that's why they got so many points.

See I think that’s BS. Sutter brand hockey is being defensively responsible. Gaudreau stepped up and did exactly that. Tkachuk didn’t, so he didn’t play in OT.

They had so many points because they offensive skills allowed them to outplay their opponents and finish chances. We took a huge hit offensively when Johnny and Tkachuk left.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Johnny was also in a contract year. It's crazy how so many players have great years when they need a new contract. And as so many people pointed out, that first line didn't play Sutter brand hockey and that's why they got so many points.

This makes no sense.

First of all, can you unpack this for us? What is Sutter’s system, in detail, and how did that line not play within it?

If it is the case they didn’t play within it, Sutter just let them do what they wanted? Seems very un-Sutter like to me. Amazing Sutter didn’t cut their ice time or split them up.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Drouin has too many red flags attached to him.

Which is why he would be so cheap. If the Flames run off 9 wins in a row and put themselves clearly in a playoff spot then maybe go after someone more expensive but if they go 5-3-1 and still are in or just outside the wildcard spot then make a lesser move. I am making an assumption Drouin and Huberdeau are good friends and if they are getting someone that Huby is comfortable with for a late pick and someone who was a former high pick and has had good seasons would be a worthy buy low option.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Johnny was also in a contract year. It's crazy how so many players have great years when they need a new contract. And as so many people pointed out, that first line didn't play Sutter brand hockey and that's why they got so many points.

Lol, they were over plus 60 because they played his system almost perfectly. Seriously, where do people make this stuff up?? Creativity and aggressiveness is allowed in the o-zone. When Sutter first came over, Gaudreau always dumped the puck in the zone and it stifled offence. He wasn’t dumping it in because he was being forced to. He was doing that because Sutter requires defensive responsibility and it took a while for Gaudreau to figure out how to do both defence and offence properly. For me, this is the big learning curve for Huberdeau.

[Poe969]

Sutter's system is more defensive, look at most teams he's coached. His teams are usually lower scoring. He didn't split up that line because they were winning. Johnny was playing dump and have because who he played with. When he was put with Tkachuk, they did better.

If Sutters style is so good, why is this team doing so average? This team on paper should be a lot better.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If Sutters style is so good, why is this team doing so average?

When your starting goalie has a SP around .890 and lets in softies almost every game, no system is going have results better than average,

[ComixZone]

TheFourthPeriod has the Flames almost in a panic. Article here

I have strong reason to believe the Flames have considered moving defenceman Mackenzie Weegar. They’ve denied it, and it doesn’t sound like a trade is presently imminent. But multiple well-placed league sources have not only heard Weegar’s name floating around but have informed me the Ottawa Senators are a team that has expressed interest in acquiring him.

Trading Weegar seems pretty bizarre. He also believes the Flames have had talks regarding Parayko (yuck), being involved in Chychrun talks (although not a major player), and restates Boeser+Schenn interest.

None of this sounds appealing (outside of Chychrun, I suppose)