2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Flames have proven time and time again they don't treat players like assets and don't manage them as assets. If posters want to be binary and treat players like assets they're going to be wrong 100 percent of the time. Frost isn't getting traded.

Not in the first month of the season no but we can’t predict what will happen come deadline time if this team remains in the bottom. History shows it is unlikely they will be there but many things will be on the table if they did.

Conroy has also stated he will not lose players for nothing which he has lived up to so that to me sounds like someone who is managing and treating players like assets

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Let’s just walk it back to the beginning.

Canucks need a center. If they want to pay up for Frost the Flames should consider it.

Turning into some kind of restraint for patience is ridiculous.

And it makes a ton of sense when Zary is playing 4th line center.

Decisions need to be made (not by any of us). Waiting and being patient can go both ways. Conroy played that game in the summer and time will tell if holding out for better returns was a good idea (we probably won't know the details). But this team has a lot of players that all could fall in the 2nd/3rd line spots over the next few years. If we can trade Frost right now and get a pick, Zary will benefit from that as well. He is not going to succeed on the 4th line.

Unless you think Frost can turn his game around to get us a 1st or a prospect of that calibre, why wait? A 2nd vs a 3rd isn't worth being patient for. Too many players on this team are down ice time and it's not realistic to think players are losing 20% of their ice time and going to improve their value.

Some players are not down ice time, but most are. Is anyone on this team over achieving right now? Might as well go with 3 goalies too

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I kind of wish we did that Zary package for Cozens last year.

Elliot says teams with extra D are shopping them; Detroit and San Jose.

Not the Flames? WTF?

Kind of!?!?!?

Another example of the flames critically overvaluing internally developed prospects. Valimaki was one too.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Also, you need some guys to be the next set of vets. Kadri, Coleman and Backlund won't be here much longer - they need guys like Frost and Farabee to take over. You can't have a team entirely comprised of 20-23 year olds. Well... you can, if you want to be Buffalo.

I'm not saying we should move them, but Frost and Farabee are a huge drop off from Kadri/Coleman/Backlund.
If those guys are our vets in the next few years, we'll be a lot worse than Buffalo.

[Monahammer]

If someone will give us anything of value for Frost, we should happily accept. Farabee isnt worth anything, so we can keep him to be a "vet" or whatever.

Most of the time there are great vets hanging around waiting to get signed. If you need veteran leadership, its also probably a good idea to look elsewhere as ours aren't a very decorated or proven bunch. If you cut out Kadri especially.

[gvitaly]

^ I wonder if NYI might be interested in a Sharangovich/Farabee for Duclair swap.

[Jaydee]

should have kept kuzmenko

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would trade Frost out. i would rather just put Zary into his spot permanently, and let him run with it, and see how he does.

However, I think Kadri leaves after this season (or during this season), and Baclund will age out in the next couple of years. Reschny deserves to get a shot at center when he leaves college (next year? Year after at most, I would assume), and there may be a #1 center from the upcoming draft needing a spot open. Tough to account with so many moving parts during a rebuild. I just don't see Frost as a piece for the future, so if there was an opportunity to move on, I would.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

^ I wonder if NYI might be interested in a Sharangovich/Farabee for Duclair swap.

No, because both those players likely have negative value. Too much money owed for two many years.

[MrMike]

Conroy is playing 4d chess guys.

It appears he is trying to "retool' for the owners wishes, but he's actually handcuffing and tanking.

Weaponized incompetence / malicious compliance

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

No, because both those players likely have negative value. Too much money owed for two many years.

So does Duclair. He started the year with 1G, 1P in 5GP, and he's a -2.
Last year in 44GP he had 7G, 11P, and was a -15.

That's why I think it could be a good change of scenery for him as well. I think he still has a full NTC, and including this season he's signed to 3 years at $3.5M. Which is cheaper than either Sharangovich($5.75M x5) or Farabee($5M x 3), though they're younger, since Duclair just turned 30.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

should have kept kuzmenko

Should have kept a UFA?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

should have kept kuzmenko

Should have traded him for the 3rd Philly got and kept the 2nd we traded in the deal .

Instead we have 5 million dollar placeholders

[Jiri Hrdina]

When the Flames had him he wasn’t worth a third
He was going on waivers if not traded

[FlamesAddiction]

I’m not ready to give up on either Frost or Farabee yet. Both still tease potential and we have nothing but time right now. If the right deal came along, then of course, but I wouldn’t worry about it. Sharangovich is a little more concerning because he just looks disengaged unlike Frost and Farabee.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Flames have proven time and time again they don't treat players like assets and don't manage them as assets. If posters want to be binary and treat players like assets they're going to be wrong 100 percent of the time. Frost isn't getting traded.

They treat and manage players as assets, they just understand that asset management is more than trading players for draft picks, something some fans outright refuse to acknowledge.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They treat and manage players as assets, they just understand that asset management is more than trading players for draft picks, something some fans outright refuse to acknowledge.

I don’t think they particularly know how to manage assets.

You speak like the organization has been well run and is actually good at what they do. For some reason you seem to think they know/have known what they’re doing. You don’t stack up the amount of failure that this organization has without a decent amount of incompetence.

Looks like a 3rd season in a row with no playoffs. 2 playoff round victories in 20 years. 5 playoff rounds won in 36 years.

I love the Flames, but c’mon. They haven’t been a well run organization in nearly four decades.

There are plenty of teams that are significantly better run than this team, so I think there’s plenty of space for criticism. Trading for more picks, when drafting may actually be one of their strengths, is not some silly concept.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don’t think they particularly know how to manage assets.

You speak like the organization has been well run and is actually good at what they do. For some reason you seem to think they know/have known what they’re doing. You don’t stack up the amount of failure that this organization has without a decent amount of incompetence.

Looks like a 3rd season in a row with no playoffs. 2 playoff round victories in 20 years. 5 playoff rounds won in 36 years.

I love the Flames, but c’mon. They haven’t been a well run organization in nearly four decades.

There are plenty of teams that are significantly better run than this team, so I think there’s plenty of space for criticism. Trading for more picks, when drafting may actually be one of their strengths, is not some silly concept.

No argument that other teams have been run significantly better than the Flames but they've had 10 picks in the first three rounds in the two drafts since Conroy took over full time (+4).

And already have 5 for the upcoming draft (+2)

That actually hasn't been an issue under this GM

Now they just need to move Andersson and probably Coleman this season to hopefully add to that.

With how the NHL draft is I prefer them having 2-3 extra picks each draft vs them loading all the picks up in the same draft year.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don’t think they particularly know how to manage assets.

You speak like the organization has been well run and is actually good at what they do. For some reason you seem to think they know/have known what they’re doing. You don’t stack up the amount of failure that this organization has without a decent amount of incompetence.

Looks like a 3rd season in a row with no playoffs. 2 playoff round victories in 20 years. 5 playoff rounds won in 36 years.

I love the Flames, but c’mon. They haven’t been a well run organization in nearly four decades.

There are plenty of teams that are significantly better run than this team, so I think there’s plenty of space for criticism. Trading for more picks, when drafting may actually be one of their strengths, is not some silly concept.

If you want to use the post as an excuse to go off that’s fine but this doesn’t really have anything to do with the point I was making, which is that asset management is more than trading players for picks.

Arguing whether they’re good or bad is valid, but arguing that they don’t attempt to do it at all doesn’t jive well with reality.

To your specific post, though, I don’t think you can say they haven’t been well run in four decades. The right things haven’t all come together at the right time, but a lot of really great, smart people have done great things managing this team over the last forty years.

EDIT: and to add, I think it’d be really, really difficult to make a valid argument why Conroy’s work has anything to do with something that happened in the 90s.

[Redrum]

I thought the Frost trade was fine value wise, I just didn't get it really for the Flames. They needed a center but it kinda felt like a half-measure again. Wasn't a fan of Cozens either but he kind of fit the profile a little better at least, even though it's probably not the right move to make either. Plus we already had a monopoly on the LS 3rd liners market before the trade.