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Coys1882 · 12-06-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mac_82

I'm just surprised they didn't do the whole lame zoom/blur on the blood dripping onto Quinn's shoe. They used it 5 times when Dex saw the blood in that van at the start of the season.

That was some seriously bad acting by the blood. It didn't even look real when it dripped onto his shoe. I didn't believe it for a second.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-12-2010, 09:58 PM

And here we go...

flamesfan6 · 12-12-2010, 10:45 PM

Spoiler!

Thought it was good, but not as strong of a finale as i was hoping for. Last season and others definately kept interest into the next season stronger.

Lil Pedro · 12-12-2010, 11:00 PM

Season finale was so-so IMO. One thing really confused me: How did Deb not see the car crash that Dexter was in when she was driving up to the house?

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-12-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Season finale was so-so IMO. One thing really confused me: How did Deb not see the car crash that Dexter was in when she was driving up to the house?

Yeah that was left unexplained. Also, Dex was bleeding when he crashed the car and he stole the car from pretty close to Liddy's murder scene.

I know Dexter always has a lot of unexplained plot holes but if the cops look into the stolen car they'd know it was stolen from the dock near Liddy's murder and find Dex's blood and/or hair in the car.

I was really hoping for a minor cliffhanger or surprise like Dex saying something to arouse the suspicion of Deb or Quinn.

There really wasn't too much they could have done differently though. Unfortunately the awesomeness of last season and the way this season developed meant they pretty much had to end it on a nice wrap it up, cookie cutter kind of way.

GGG · 12-12-2010, 11:18 PM

I am glad there isn't a cliff hanger. I enjoy each season being self contained and found too much time was wasted this season cleaning up the lose ends from last season and made this season feel rushed. I would argue that other than season 4 there were no real cliff hangers in the other seasons. Season 1 only had the fact that Rita's ex said that dexter framed him. Season 2 had none, season 3 had none.

The ending this season was good in that it starts to show Debs change of thought from a black and white cop to a shades of grey cop. 1st season deb would have brought in the vigilanties. Assuming season 6 is the last season I suspect it to end with Deb discovering Dexter and her being forced to choose to bring him in or let him go.

Also Quinn now knows that Dex is a killer and covered up for him to protect Deb but also to protect himself. Quinn still has the pictures in his apartment. I suspect this will also factor in next season

Overall this was a good season but not great. It was almost transitional in nature due to the cliff hanger ending. And it would have been tough to match the intensity of Lithgow. 4 is still by far the best season followed by 1 than 2 than this season and then way at the bottom the disappointing 3.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-12-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GGG

I am glad there isn't a cliff hanger. I enjoy each season being self contained and found too much time was wasted this season cleaning up the lose ends from last season and made this season feel rushed. I would argue that other than season 4 there were no real cliff hangers in the other seasons. Season 1 only had the fact that Rita's ex said that dexter framed him. Season 2 had none, season 3 had none.

The ending this season was good in that it starts to show Debs change of thought from a black and white cop to a shades of grey cop. 1st season deb would have brought in the vigilanties. Assuming season 6 is the last season I suspect it to end with Deb discovering Dexter and her being forced to choose to bring him in or let him go.

Also Quinn now knows that Dex is a killer and covered up for him to protect Deb but also to protect himself. Quinn still has the pictures in his apartment. I suspect this will also factor in next season

I believe you are mistaken.

Dex knows Quinn isn't exactly a by the book cop. And Quinn knows that Dex knows this. Remember when Dex saw Quinn steal $$?

Now Quinn just thinks that Dex isn't as straight laced as he was before and that he's willing to bend the rules to help out a fellow cop.

Quinn has no idea that Dexter was in the van, that Liddy had Dex on tape or pretty much anything else. Remember Liddy didn't tell Quinn why he wanted to meet him at the docks.

All Quinn has on Dex is the pics at the dock with the suitcase and the Kyle Butler thing. Surely enough to be suspicious but now that Dex has gone out on a limb for Quinn, I'm sure Quinn will look the other way.

I already mentioned the car at the camp plot hole but I'm kind of bothered by the 13th DVD thing still. Dex replaced it and wrote the 13 on it himself. Quite a few problems with that. Dex's writing would be off because he wrote the 13 on before he took the real one so he had no comparison, if the cops knew anything about DVDs they would be able to see that the 13th lacked a burn ring on the bottom and that the one Dex replaced it with is blank. Also, the brand of disc was very likely not the same. Dex just grabbed one off the rack at the station.

ben voyonsdonc · 12-12-2010, 11:35 PM

Liddy died while surveilling Dexter. I am pretty sure that Quinn is smart enough to put 2 and 2 together to figure out who actually killed him.

The killing of Liddy was good news for Quinn. It took the guy who was blackmailing him off his back so I am pretty sure that Quinn won't miss him and now that Quinn has been let off the hook by Dexter I doubt that Quinn will spend much energy trying to prove who killed Liddy. The stuff that would be brought up in that investigation would only hurt his relationship with Deb and his career as a whole.

GGG · 12-12-2010, 11:36 PM

Doesn't quinn also have the pics of Dex and lumen with the knives?

I try to ignore and not think about all the ways dex should be caught as it makes the show more enjoyable. There should be trace hair all over the van that is dexters although if Dex were smart he would have a fake DNA profile on the Police computers so his DNA would never be linked.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-12-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Liddy died while surveilling Dexter. I am pretty sure that Quinn is smart enough to put 2 and 2 together to figure out who actually killed him.

The killing of Liddy was good news for Quinn. It took the guy who was blackmailing him off his back so I am pretty sure that Quinn won't miss him and now that Quinn has been let off the hook by Dexter I doubt that Quinn will spend much energy trying to prove who killed Liddy. The stuff that would be brought up in that investigation would only hurt his relationship with Deb and his career as a whole.

I don't think Quinn knows that. Remember when Liddy showed up outside the station and said he had a "major bust" that he wanted help with?

Liddy never said anything about it being about Dexter.

I'm sure if Quinn tried hard enough he could make some sort of connection but I don't think it is as obvious as you may think.

ben voyonsdonc · 12-12-2010, 11:49 PM

It certainly seemed that he made the connection when they were going to view the murder when he pointedly asked Dexter something along the lines of "Do you have any theories on how this happened?" Dexter isn't a detective and would certainly wouldn't have been able to put forward a real hypothesis based on the info he had as a blood spatter analyst...especially considering he hadn't even seen the scene of the crime.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-12-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

It certainly seemed that he made the connection when they were going to view the murder when he pointedly asked Dexter something along the lines of "Do you have any theories on how this happened?" Dexter isn't a detective and would certainly wouldn't have been able to put forward a real hypothesis based on the info he had as a blood spatter analyst...especially considering he hadn't even seen the scene of the crime.

Good point. I kind of wish it would have been a tad more obvious. I was hoping for that really gripping "aha" moment when one of the characters, in this case Quinn, would make the connection and as the viewer we'd get to witness the light go on, that brief moment of fear thinking Dex might be caught and then realizing that he's safe after all.

Hemi-Cuda · 12-12-2010, 11:53 PM

well i called it with Lumen surviving, little disappointed that she's only a 1 season character though. i really wanted to see the pupil/master dynamic grow as it does in the books. i wonder if they're gonna go for the angle of Dexter trying to get rid of his dark passenger for the final season, he certainly seems to think that's possible after this finale

ben voyonsdonc · 12-13-2010, 12:04 AM

Next season is pretty much a blank slate for them to work with. I thought there were some really good episodes this season but it was nowhere near the overall quality of seasons 1 or 4. All the loose ends got tied up just a little too neatly which seemed unlikely considering how many loose ends there were entering the finale. I'd have liked to have seen some left over drama for next year...didn't need to be a cliff hanger but not everything needed to be resolved this season.

I won't miss Lumen. I wasn't a fan of having a two person team - Dexter is "a one man wolf pack" to quote The Hangover and it just didn't work for me to have him teaming up with someone else. I didn't think Stiles' acting was very good and I hoped that she would be relegated to a minor role but it didn't happen.

We'll see how the next season progresses.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-13-2010, 12:12 AM

I am very excited for a clean slate next year. With absolutely nothing holding him back Dex can really go pretty much any direction.

Should be very exciting.

ben voyonsdonc · 12-13-2010, 12:20 AM

I can definitely understand why you would want a clean slate...I just remember back a year ago and being soooo excited for next year's premiere and how frustrated (in a good way) I was that it was 9 months away. I can say that I don't feel the same way this time around. Of course I love the show and will be excited when it starts again but this episode could have certainly acted as a series finale because it resolved every bit of drama.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-13-2010, 12:33 AM

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I can definitely understand why you would want a clean slate...I just remember back a year ago and being soooo excited for next year's premiere and how frustrated (in a good way) I was that it was 9 months away. I can say that I don't feel the same way this time around. Of course I love the show and will be excited when it starts again but this episode could have certainly acted as a series finale because it resolved every bit of drama.

I do like it that Dexter doesn't resort to cliffhangers to get people interested.

Now I do agree that last year left me counting down the days but that is just because last year's finale was so incredibly jaw dropping.

In a way it is a relief that I'm glad the season's over but that intense frustration isn't there because next year is so wide open that I'm not going to be waiting impatiently for next season. The resolution feels good in a way.

VANFLAMESFAN · 12-13-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I do like it that Dexter doesn't resort to cliffhangers to get people interested.

2 things

1. You make it sound like cliffhangers are a bad thing. Cliff hangers give you the "Oh damn, I gotta see what happens next" kind of feeling. When used at the right time, cliffhanger endings are great.

2. You say Dexter doesn't resort to cliffhangers. That's laughable seeing as how Dexter probably had at least 5-6 different cliffhanger endings this season alone. Dexter finding Lumen, Lumen telling Dexter there's more than one rapist. Liddy snapping those pictures of Dex and Lumen are just three cliffhangers that I can think of from this season. At the end of each of those scenes, there was the "Oh damn, I gotta see what happens next" kind of feeling.

jeremywilhelm · 12-13-2010, 02:00 AM

Heh. I'm not sure if you all know this but a lumen is a unit of illumination. I'm sure the writers were being ironic when, in the end, Lumens journey show Dexter that the dark passenger, or shadow, can be dispelled or..... illuminated.

Cecil Terwilliger · 12-13-2010, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

2 things

1. You make it sound like cliffhangers are a bad thing. Cliff hangers give you the "Oh damn, I gotta see what happens next" kind of feeling. When used at the right time, cliffhanger endings are great.

2. You say Dexter doesn't resort to cliffhangers. That's laughable seeing as how Dexter probably had at least 5-6 different cliffhanger endings this season alone. Dexter finding Lumen, Lumen telling Dexter there's more than one rapist. Liddy snapping those pictures of Dex and Lumen are just three cliffhangers that I can think of from this season. At the end of each of those scenes, there was the "Oh damn, I gotta see what happens next" kind of feeling.

Cliffhangers are bad if it is the only way to keep people interested. Stupid Dallas pretty much ruined TV.

Cliffhangers from week to week aren't cliffhangers in the sense I'm talking about. If you only have to wait 6 days, instead of 6 months that isn't much of a cliffhanger.