[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Especially if said player and agent attempted to take advantage of Washington's clearly illegal tampering after the support the Flames gave him. That must have significantly undermined the trust the Flames had in Kylington's camp.


I would offer 4 years X 1M. At this point, who says no?

Kylington. Apparently.

I know nothing, but I doubt he was offered more than $4M, however you wanna slice it.

[CFO]

I'd give OK an 8 year minimum salary contract. What's the min amount? $750k a year?

And tell him every day that passes a year falls off until it's a FO date.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by saillias

This situation led to hurt feelings on both sides.

He better quit crying and get puckering. How about a 1-year, 2-way?

[Fighting Banana Slug]

4 years is absolute lunacy. No way a team should pay any more that $1mm on such a deal, and Kylington would not likely accept anything less than $1mm. There is no deal space for that term.

The 4 year rumour sounds like BS to me. Even if it was Wash or Utah, it isn't as if they are stacked on D. They could offer 1 or 2 years at $1mm. Same for Calgary, frankly.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CFO

I'd give OK an 8 year minimum salary contract. What's the min amount? $750k a year?

And tell him every day that passes a year falls off until it's a FO date.

Well yeah, because you can bury that if you want. He's not going to take that. He'll get more in Europe.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well yeah, because you can bury that if you want. He's not going to take that. He'll get more in Europe.

No he won't.

https://www.playhockeyineurope.com/b...make-in-europe

775k USD would be 715k Euro. No league pays even half that.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Something about infinite threads and CP just doesn't add up...

We don't have an infinite number of threads.

However, the threads we do have are infinitely long.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

They didn’t pass. The other team withdrew the offer. Bad luck for him

Well the Flames passed on matching

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

They didn’t pass. The other team withdrew the offer. Bad luck for him

Is it not possible that the agent bluffed and lost (there was no offer)?

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by CFO

I'd give OK an 8 year minimum salary contract. What's the min amount? $750k a year?

And tell him every day that passes a year falls off until it's a FO date.

Not that it would ever happen, but I thought the max now was 7 years?

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by dino7c

But why?

At $1M/yr, If he shows he’s a top 4, you can trade him for a king’s ransom. Or you can take on more bad contracts with attached sweeteners by not having to pay someone else $5M to play in that role. If he’s not, you can completely bury his cap hit. Aside from the actual dollars, it’s hard to find any downside for the Flames, with a potential huge upside

[Jay Random]

Kylington without Tanev has never looked like a top-4 D. He's 27 years old and still hasn't shown that he can be defensively reliable. Nor is he good enough with the puck to make you ignore his play without it. If he could score 50 points in a season, coaches might begin to think about it, but he's never come particularly close.

The man overplayed his hand. He was easily replaceable and has been quickly replaced.

[Ped]

Well, LA is paying Edmundson 3.85 for four years. So anything possible.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Kylington without Tanev has never looked like a top-4 D. He's 27 years old and still hasn't shown that he can be defensively reliable. Nor is he good enough with the puck to make you ignore his play without it. If he could score 50 points in a season, coaches might begin to think about it, but he's never come particularly close.

The man overplayed his hand. He was easily replaceable and has been quickly replaced.

I wonder this.

Difficult contract negotiations last time. Again this time. Easily replaceable 4D/5D. Too hard basket, too hard to deal with. Time to move on

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

At $1M/yr, If he shows he’s a top 4, you can trade him for a king’s ransom. Or you can take on more bad contracts with attached sweeteners by not having to pay someone else $5M to play in that role. If he’s not, you can completely bury his cap hit. Aside from the actual dollars, it’s hard to find any downside for the Flames, with a potential huge upside

Disagree.

Yeah you can bury 1M in the A, but it literally costs you 1M for guy in the A.

Other guys will be 200-300 K max....those are real dollars the team has to think about.

And lets be honest, OK really hasn't established himself beyond 1 good year that was 3 seasons previous to next season.

He is a risk....and that has to be part of the decision by CC...one i think he made July 1 when signing Bean.

Really do not see a path back to Cgy at this point considering the stable of Dmen they have assembled.

Or, i could be entirely misreading it and dead wrong.

[bluejays]

With respect to the rumored Washington deal, in the NHL where there wink wink tampering, I have no doubt his agent was given the heads up that the offer may be coming. Also knowing GMs being sharks for screwing over anyone if they need to, they made their deal and probably just didn't end up making the offer. Crazy to think a team would take him on for four years. I thought two years max. Further, I wonder if his agent leaked it to suggest that someone was offering 4 years to see if someone else will bite?

[Ferarri]

I get why a player wants term but I think the long play that would be more lucrative for Kylington is to take a one or two year deal. He has a huge opportunity to move up the lineup and be in a top 4 role. Everyone knows that this team isn’t going to be very good for the next little while so he just needs to put up points and not be a liability defensively. If he can do that and get more involved on the PP he has the opportunity to cash in on a better deal then he would signing 4 years now.

I’m still convinced his agent is giving him bad advice, but as others have mentioned it’s his call at the end of the day. This seems like such an odd holdout for a contract given who he is a player and what he’s accomplished in the league (which hasn’t been much outside of a nice run with Tanev). You would hope he surrounds himself with people who have common sense but that seems to be lacking at least right now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

I get why a player wants term but I think the long play that would be more lucrative for Kylington is to take a one or two year deal. He has a huge opportunity to move up the lineup and be in a top 4 role. Everyone knows that this team isn’t going to be very good for the next little while so he just needs to put up points and not be a liability defensively. If he can do that and get more involved on the PP he has the opportunity to cash in on a better deal then he would signing 4 years now.

I’m still convinced his agent is giving him bad advice, but as others have mentioned it’s his call at the end of the day. This seems like such an odd holdout for a contract given who he is a player and what he’s accomplished in the league (which hasn’t been much outside of a nice run with Tanev). You would hope he surrounds himself with people who have common sense but that seems to be lacking at least right now.

This is exactly why I would be skeptical...hate to say it but maybe getting paid to not play maybe wasn't so bad. Why does he want term so bad?

[Badgers Nose]

This is all part of the ruthlessness we want from our GM.

Conroy made gis best offer and OK didn’t take it. That’s that.

[GioforPM]

The story doesn’t make much sense. Why would Washington tamper to get a guy at Kylington’s level? At 4 years, no less. And while I can understand the Flames being miffed that they had spoken to another team prior to UFA, why would there be hurt feelings on Kylington’s part if the Flames said “gee, no we can’t match that offer, you should sign it”.