2024 Cavalry FC and CPL thread

[Johnny199r]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I don't even know if it would've been that bad if not for having all of our attacking midfielders/wingers decimated with injury.

Bevan was a huge loss.

The other guys (Camargo, to a lesser extent Musse) are injury prone guys that you have to plan on being out for a while.

It's hard to sign good attacking players in this league but Tommy hasn't really been good at it the last few years, either.

[Johnny199r]

Anyone else think it's going to take a miracle for the CPL to expand again?

I feel like potential stadium situations are almost impossible across the country in order for new clubs to come onboard. The CPL commish(es) love to talk about how many potential ownership groups they've been in discussions with for the last several years, but it obviously can't be making any financial sense for prospective ownership groups if there hasn't been any concrete movement.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

Anyone else think it's going to take a miracle for the CPL to expand again?

I feel like potential stadium situations are almost impossible across the country in order for new clubs to come onboard. The CPL commish(es) love to talk about how many potentional ownership groups they've been in discussions with for the last several years, but it obviously can't be making any financial sense for prospective ownership groups if there is never nay traction.

People love the thought of expansion until it comes time to spend the money.

We've seen a crowd of 6400, in Montreal 6200 in Kelowna and today there were 4500 in St. John's for an HFX Wanderers U-21 friendly. I think there are markets where people will jump on the game.

Unfortunately without people or groups to actually invest in the game and without adequate facilities expansion is a no go. Even the ownership groups we have do things pretty half assed. I get they are trying to reduce losses in order to get the league established but I have to laugh when Spruce Meadows calls their facility world class. I'm sure that's the case for equestrian but for soccer it's pretty bare bones. And it's probably the best facility in the league....

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

Bevan was a huge loss.

The other guys (Camargo, to a lesser extent Musse) are injury prone guys that you have to plan on being out for a while.

It's hard to sign good attacking players in this league but Tommy hasn't really been good at it the last few years, either.

I don't disagree, but Warschewski is decent enough to mitigate the drop off from losing Bevan a bit. The team is just incredibly unimaginative and lacking in quality as it sits. He's got to create things for himself.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

I saw Badibanga’s goal against TFC, chip the keeper from halfway, and thought to myself that I’ve never seen anyone on Cavalry try something like that. Either Tommy doesn’t recruit players with the confidence to try something like that, or it is drilled out of them to such a high degree to play within the system. Personally I think it’s the second one with a little bit of poor recruiting along the way

Even with all the injuries (Musse RIP? Where is he?) the attackers were so poor to start the year outside of Warschiewski that it doesn’t feel like a big loss that Akio and Camargo have been out so long. It’s a shame that Cavalry has two players who look like they can make something happen offensively. Everyone else passes sideways.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

I saw Badibanga’s goal against TFC, chip the keeper from halfway, and thought to myself that I’ve never seen anyone on Cavalry try something like that. Either Tommy doesn’t recruit players with the confidence to try something like that, or it is drilled out of them to such a high degree to play within the system. Personally I think it’s the second one with a little bit of poor recruiting along the way

Even with all the injuries (Musse RIP? Where is he?) the attackers were so poor to start the year outside of Warschiewski that it doesn’t feel like a big loss that Akio and Camargo have been out so long. It’s a shame that Cavalry has two players who look like they can make something happen offensively. Everyone else passes sideways.

I guess I'm on an island here, but to me the recruiting has been excellent! I mean really, we had Malonga, Jordan Brown, Bevan, Farsi, Escalante, Pasquotti, Pepple, and probably a couple others I can't recall off the top of my head who could all provide some offence. And now Toby, and a couple misses this year (Shaw for example). It's a pretty impressive record of bringing in guys who can provide some offence and that doesn't even factor in Musse, Camargo and such who are still here.

Scoring is the hardest part of the game, and we all know that. I do agree that we need more creativity and I am not super pumped about the on-field product this year, but honestly I feel like we've had an amazing run for this franchise. I realise that a few more titles and trophies along that would've been nice, but they've been so good at recruiting and development over the past ~5 years that I can't really fault them and I'm not in the camp of calling for Tommy to be shown the door.

[Muta]

I'll be honest... I love the Cavs, and will continue supporting them, but this is some hard footie to watch right now. I spent a chunk of the game on Saturday wandering around the grounds, eating food and laying on the grass instead of watching the game.

We miss Musse, we miss Bevan, we miss Farsi, hell I even miss Malonga. My hope is that the Cavs are looking internationally for players; we need a spark on this team in the worst way.

Now Warchewski, love that kid - what a talent. So glad he's a Cav.

[The Big Chill]

Pretty much agree with all of you guys here, Tommy has generally done a great job in his time here, and we have also really stagnated this year. The injuries are no doubt a huge part of that, but we somehow have to battle through it. The new signing looked good, and hopefully Musse and Camargo are back soon.

I do think the struggles this year highlight issues we’ve had in our entire existence, and that is that we don’t progress the ball well through the middle of the pitch. We play very safe and cycle the ball around defence and midfield, and then attack primarily through the wings. When we don’t have wingers who can beat defenders we don’t create many chances.

I’d like to see us progress through the middle more, but if Tommy isn’t going to do that he should probably try to always have 4 speedy wingers on the roster.

[TheIronMaiden]

I don't mind that the Cavs aren't that good every year.
What I do mind is when we have a strong team, and the Cavs sell players before we get a chance to celebrate a championship.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

I do think the struggles this year highlight issues we’ve had in our entire existence, and that is that we don’t progress the ball well through the middle of the pitch. We play very safe and cycle the ball around defence and midfield, and then attack primarily through the wings. When we don’t have wingers who can beat defenders we don’t create many chances.

I’d like to see us progress through the middle more, but if Tommy isn’t going to do that he should probably try to always have 4 speedy wingers on the roster.

To this point - man, it was so exciting to see Kone move the ball consistently (and effectively) through the middle during Copa. When I was watching that, I was like - "damn, WHY can't the Cavs do that??"

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Muta

To this point - man, it was so exciting to see Kone move the ball consistently (and effectively) through the middle during Copa. When I was watching that, I was like - "damn, WHY can't the Cavs do that??"

Well, Uruguay just opening up and letting him have 25 yards of wide-open space had a lot to do with that. I would like to see a stronger midfield for Cavs in general.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

I’m not in the Tommy out camp for clarification, still think he’s done an excellent job and has developed a very strong team. Just not the most attractive football at times and they don’t have the set piece prowess they had last year to help carry the team. Tobias has been a home run of a signing, think he has nearly the same amount of goals that Bevan had all of last year in half a season. (Haven’t fact checked that to be sure though).

A progressive midfielder, a Julian Büscher, is the player they miss the most

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Slava

I guess I'm on an island here, but to me the recruiting has been excellent! I mean really, we had Malonga, Jordan Brown, Bevan, Farsi, Escalante, Pasquotti, Pepple, and probably a couple others I can't recall off the top of my head who could all provide some offence.

Good call, it's tough when you're continually moving guys along. Minatel, Buscher... Even Alarcon was decent, and it was a good swap for a position of strength (wing/FB) to bring in Henry. Henry gives me hope as someone who can strengthen the middle, a total shame about his injuries.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Why is Shaw still leading the line? 40th minute Field puts in a dangerous ball and Shaw is nowhere to be seen. 3 or 4 minutes later the ball falls to him inside the 6 and he handles it. Put a more dangerous player there and if you must play Shaw put him on the wing where he can use his speed to stretch play more.

I only turned the game on in the 38th minute or so but I like what Wähling brings to the table so far. Feisty and willing to take guys on. Took a really intelligent foul to stop a counter. Need more of that intelligence on the pitch

[M*A*S*H 4077]

We’re a disaster. Miss a PK. Another mess of a corner results in a goal against. Of course it happens the week Barrett signs with Blackburn…

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Very disappointing result to me that. Give up the lead instantly. Have a man advantage for 10 minutes and not one good opportunity beyond a wonder strike off the bar from 25 yards.

Charlie Trafford can go anytime. His antics and throwing arms and complaining every time something happens is so off putting. And he’s just not very good right now.

[shermanator]

That was a classic 2024 Cavalry game. Dull in the first half. A terrible penalty to start the second. Finally break through in the 57th on a great header from Klomp only to give Forge a goal 60 seconds later.

Tom Field having to start every game is a symptom of how bad our roster construction is year after year. He simply is not good enough for this level. But we insist on signing 72 central midfielders and can't build any depth elsewhere in the roster. Last year we were lucky enough to be healthy and avoid this disaster.

5 wins in 20 games since Ian Allison put his big boy pants on...

[agulati]

Tom Field and Trafford did not have good games today.

In the first half, I’m not sure why they are so allergic from using Aird on the wing. So many times he was wide open, and they would still try to force pass it through the other side.

Liked Henry for the brief few minutes he was in though

[TheIronMaiden]

The result flatters the Cavs.


Camaro played great. He and Klomp are the only players who seem to enjoy having the ball on their foot.


Carducci made some nice saves but Damnit he sucks on corner kicks.

[HitterD]

My first ever Cavalry game today, and took my son. While I get the frustration in this thread and they didn’t play their best, we were both thoroughly entertained and were excited to see a goal scored right in front of us. Too bad about the PK miss