[ECF] Carolina Hurricanes [MET1] vs Florida Panthers [WC2] Panthers win 4-0

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by dino7c

first time in the playoffs too

I hate Vegas but I kind of want to see that now.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The oddsmakers are usually correct, that is how they stay in business

Can Bob continue to stand on his head and steal 5 more games? I guess we will see

The "odds makers" set the initial line only.

Bettors then decide which way, if any, it moves.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The "odds makers" set the initial line only.

Bettors then decide which way, if any, it moves.

The line is set daily for things like the con smythe trophy...after every game

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The line is set daily for things like the con smythe trophy...after every game

Right...and what is it you think decides where that line moves?

Its the money and which player is getting the most action.

And its Conn...not Con. Sorry...pet peeve.

[FanIn80]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1660860559309373440

I used to make fun of Maurice (he always irked me when he coached WPG), but he's giving Sutterisms a run for their money this season!

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You don’t really have to be convinced. Teams are as good as they’re playing in the moment and they’ll do that regardless of what anybody thinks.

You look at it like they needed help to squeak into the final spot in the playoffs. But every team gets help. It might not happen at the same time, but Florida deserves credit for putting themselves in a position to benefit from that help in the first place.

Again, though, the Ullmark thing is just kind of… meaningless, isn’t it? Ullmark said there was a difference between being hurt and being injured, and he was the former. The only one reporting otherwise was “insiderrrrr” Kevin Weekes (lol). But that’s beside the fact that we absolutely saw that an “unfortunate injury” (or whatever the excuse is for Ullmark’s play) was the difference between Boston being a “great” team and a team that goes out in the first round. How can you say otherwise? We saw it. We also just saw it in Calgary. Take away part of what makes a great team great and… you guessed it, they’re not great anymore!

You can pretend that Florida is a meh-team just lucking their way to the finals. But that just ignores too many fundamental truths about hockey, imo. If luck is what brought Florida here, you better believe it’s what led Boston to the regular season record and led McDavid to his ridiculous totals. The difference between great teams and average teams might only be how ready and able they are to capitalize on good luck when they have it.

Florida seems to be really, really good in that department. Regardless of how many people stay doubters and haters. They don’t seem to have any issue proving people wrong. Good for them.

It's the NHL. Pretty much every team is always ready to capitalize on good luck when they get it. It's just a matter of whether they get the luck or not. Sure, some teams are incompetently run and don't take advantage of luck as much as they could. But luck plays a much larger role in determining how far teams get in the playoffs than you seem willing to admit.

It's pretty clear that Ullmark was hampered with some sort of physical issue (if you want to call it being "hurt" rather than "injured", fine, it doesn't really detract from the point being made) which greatly impared his ability to be effective in game 6, and resulted in him not playing in game 7. To me, this doesn't take away from the greatness of the Bruins as was shown over the course of a record-setting 82 game season.

Bob & Chucky are playing extraordinarily well right now, and are carrying their team to the SC Finals. But two players does not a team make. Two players getting scorching hot at the right time does not mean the team they play for is suddenly great.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

https://twitter.com/user/status/1660860559309373440

I used to make fun of Maurice (he always irked me when he coached WPG), but he's giving Sutterisms a run for their money this season!

His interviews / pressers in general are a good window into how he keeps getting work. He's a great talker.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Can we convince Markstom to lose a tonne of weight to get quicker?

"Through sheer determination and perseverance, he successfully shed a substantial amount of weight. The results are striking, with Bobrovsky now boasting a leaner physique, defined muscles, and an overall more toned appearance."
sergei-bobrovsky-weight-loss-before-after/


To me he looks skinny as hell, but it's working

There was something that said he loses 10-15 lbs during the game. Might be why he looks extra skinny.

[White Out 403]

Kipper was 928 save % in 04

Bob is 943. This is above Hasek levels.

This isn't Florida re emerging as a team of destiny after one bad year. This is a goaltender dragging his team to the finals with , nearly (thanks to Paulie Walnuts to correct), unprecedented numbers

[taxbuster]

What I've seen in this series started when watching the 3OT period in Game 1. Florida seemed...faster, better conditioned and a half-step ahead of the Canes all they way. When the Canes were tired, flagging and floundering in that period, Panthers were all over the puck, speedy and moving well, crashing bodies and still playing their game. (I couldn't stay awake for 4OT unfortunately!)

As far as I can see - and I've not watched all of every game - that hasn't stopped. It was certainly the case in the last game. Panthers won almost every 50/50 puck battle in that 3rd period and were all over the Canes, with the exception of one long session trapped in their own zone.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

What I've seen in this series started when watching the 3OT period in Game 1. Florida seemed...faster, better conditioned and a half-step ahead of the Canes all they way. When the Canes were tired, flagging and floundering in that period, Panthers were all over the puck, speedy and moving well, crashing bodies and still playing their game. (I couldn't stay awake for 4OT unfortunately!)

As far as I can see - and I've not watched all of every game - that hasn't stopped. It was certainly the case in the last game. Panthers won almost every 50/50 puck battle in that 3rd period and were all over the Canes, with the exception of one long session trapped in their own zone.

I thought the Canes dominated the third - Fla was sitting on the one goal lead and relying on forcing the Canes outside, and of course, Bob.

In fact, I think the Canes have been better overall, just not in net (and Fred A has been really really good).

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Kipper was 928 save % in 04

Bob is 943. This is above Hasek levels.

This isn't Florida re emerging as a team of destiny after one bad year. This is a goaltender dragging his team to the finals with , literally , unprecedented numbers

Quick had a .945 in LA's cup run.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Quick had a .945 in LA's cup run.

wow so he did. its no wonder they won too

[Saqe]

Bob is .935 fwiw

[GioforPM]

Weird how some cup winners have goaltenders putting up great numbers, even if they aren't elite normally. Darcy Kuemper - .928. Binnington, Holtby, Murray, Ward, etc.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Bob is .935 fwiw

In this series he's much higher. He's getting stronger as they go.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Bob is .935 fwiw

He is .977 in the East Final and has set the all time record for saves after 3 games

Panthers locking it down and strong defensively lol (not sure if you said that, somebody did)

[transplant99]

Noodles just said on TSN that according to the numbers, that the last 8 games by Bobrovsky are the greatest 8 game stretch in the history of the NHL....regular season or playoff. Not sure what the quantifiers are but i suspect its GAA and goals against below expected or whatever that is.

If so, that is bananas. Also why they gave him 10M per.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Weird how some cup winners have goaltenders putting up great numbers, even if they aren't elite normally. Darcy Kuemper - .928. Binnington, Holtby, Murray, Ward, etc.

Darcy was .902 last year.

Colorado was just so explosive offensively and playing that fast rush hockey that it didn't matter much.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Noodles just said on TSN that according to the numbers, that the last 8 games by Bobrovsky are the greatest 8 game stretch in the history of the NHL....regular season or playoff. Not sure what the quantifiers are but i suspect its GAA and goals against below expected or whatever that is.

If so, that is bananas. Also why they gave him 10M per.

okay, it might be working out at the moment...they would have given him away all year though. He was the backup down the stretch and into the playoffs.

Lets not pretend it was some shrewd move and they knew all along