2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Correct - If you are only going to consider moving depth players for a #1 center in a deal you can't refuse this team isn't going anywhere - because that deal is never going to be on the table.

Depth players should be shipped the minute you can extract more value from them. Flames fans fall in love with depth players.

I don't think it's as simple as you outline it out. IMO it's all about value. It seems the Flames value their players more than the rest of the league. I'm sure you could make a trade for the sake of a trade. Would you be happy getting a 2nd for Zary? A 4th for Pospisil? How about trading Sharngovich + 3rd for future considerations?

I wouldn't be surprised if Conroy is looking to trade a winger for a LD.

[Icon]

It's too bad Ottawa isn't further along in their rebuild. Something around Andersson for Yakemchuk would be fun.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Corrected for accuracy.

Ya the Flames tried to sign almost nobody other than Hanifin to an extension. Not Toffoli, not Mangiapane, could not with Markstrom, not Tanev, not Zadorov, not Kuzmenko and not really Lindholm.

But they did try to sign 1 out of the 8 veterans they traded to an extension. So there is that.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Ya the Flames tried to sign almost nobody other than Hanifin to an extension. Not Toffoli, not Mangiapane, could not with Markstrom, not Tanev, not Zadorov, not Kuzmenko and not really Lindholm.

But they did try to sign 1 out of the 8 veterans they traded to an extension. So there is that.

And if any vet signed for a really reasonable price, they'd be MORE tradeable.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And if any vet signed for a really reasonable price, they'd be MORE tradeable.

I personally look forward to the same posters who complained about trying to sign then 27 year old Hanifin to a 7.5 million dollar or so contract complaining about how we signed a 29 year old left handed UFA who is not as good as Hanifin to a 8.5 million dollar contract in the summer of 2027 to fill that inevitable hole and using Hanifin as the example of what the Flames should have done.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Icon

It's too bad Ottawa isn't further along in their rebuild. Something around Andersson for Yakemchuk would be fun.

What's funny is I don't think Ottawa sees Yakemchuk as untouchable, but Rasmus wont extend in Ottawa.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I'm not sure you know what a hill to die on means based on this response

If anything the 'Farabee is good because of his underlying stats despite his actual performance being garbage' is the hill you seem to want to die on

Farabee has 2 points in 5 games (one point off the team lead) and leads the team in most play driving categories.

His actual performance has been quite good.

The coach called him their best player through four games.

Not sure I die on my hill.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If we are looking at the Flames firmly as sellers this year what are the assets you prioritize moving?

Andersson is the obvious first choice. He is getting dealt and the only thing stopping him would be this team going on a huge tear and he agrees to a 6 year term. Not happening.


Coleman makes a ton of sense to move this season with 50% retention so a team gets 2 runs at $2.45M I think he can get a 1st.

Frost/Farabee/Sharangovich are guys I would move but not sure there will be a ton of interest.

I probably hold onto Lomberg unless a team overpays with a 2nd.

Kadri is interesting. He has a lot of value and every single Canadian team would want to add him let alone teams like the Avs. The full NMC restricts the ability to deal so I could see the team holding onto Kadri going into next year. They won’t gut all the vets and if this is a down year I think they will want to be better next year and beyond so it makes sense to keep Kadri if he doesn’t want to leave.

Andersson, Coleman, and Lomberg at the veterans to trade. I think that Frost is also in that group, but you may decide to extend him further if he continues to gel with the younger players. As you mention, if Farabee or Sharangovich receive enticing offers then you look at trading them but their contracts are prohibitive.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by NegativeSpace

I think that Frost is also in that group, but you may decide to extend him further if he continues to gel with the younger players. As you mention, if Farabee or Sharangovich receive enticing offers then you look at trading them but their contracts are prohibitive.

All of these guys are reclamation projects. I don't think any of them have been sufficiently refurbished to generate much demand - all were probably made available by their old teams fairly recently. Maybe Sharkbit after his 30 goal campaign could have fetched something, not now though.

CC needed warm NHL bodies, so acquiring these guys made sense.

But our drafting is good lately and now we probably need the spots for emerging youngsters. It will be hard to move Frost, Farabee and especially Sharkbit.

More realistically they stay here until the rebuild is done and then they diminish and fade from memory.

This team will not be good in 2-3 years. It's going to take at least five years and we need a few top ten picks. Just like last time.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Not commenting on the trade proposal specifically.

I’m not really sure what value Farabee has around the league. Philly was trying to dump him for a while after they decided he was surplus. But no one would take on the project because of the contract.

It took packaging him with Frost to move him.

He hasn’t done anything to help his case since the trade. He has a great work ethic and seems to be a good character but you don’t pay high energy checkers $5M/year.

I don’t think there is a market for him right now, so you would be paying a team to take him on.

Where he might fit in Calgary is on Backlund’s wing if Coleman is moved. Like Coleman, he might grow into his contract there. First by being a master checker and later by finding his offence.

Farabee helps them reach the cap floor with a minimal commitment in terms of years.

Ditto Sharangovich.

They're bridge players.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I suspect Reinbacher would be off the table given how early they picked him.

The Habs have to hang on to Reinbacher to include in a deal for Crosby.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

All of these guys are reclamation projects. I don't think any of them have been sufficiently refurbished to generate much demand - all were probably made available by their old teams fairly recently. Maybe Sharkbit after his 30 goal campaign could have fetched something, not now though.

CC needed warm NHL bodies, so acquiring these guys made sense.

But our drafting is good lately and now we probably need the spots for emerging youngsters. It will be hard to move Frost, Farabee and especially Sharkbit.

More realistically they stay here until the rebuild is done and then they diminish and fade from memory.

This team will not be good in 2-3 years. It's going to take at least five years and we need a few top ten picks. Just like last time.

I agree. The team does have a glut of NHL wingers though. If the team has a down year, then it is not irrational to look at transitioning out a few wingers depending upon demand from other teams. Perhaps you only get a third or a fourth.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by NegativeSpace

I agree. The team does have a glut of NHL wingers though. If the team has a down year, then it is not irrational to look at transitioning out a few wingers depending upon demand from other teams. Perhaps you only get a third or a fourth.

Yeah, and the Flames are good at turning later picks into NHLers. Guys that will fill out the roster in 5-6 years when Flames have some star players.

[Ped]

Friedman reporting that the Rangers may be looking for options for Brennan Othmann, 16th overall in 2021. Dismal NHL stats, nothing special in the AHL either.


Is there any team worse than the Rangers at developing talent? Othmann, Kakko, Robertson, Kravtsov, Andersson, Zac Jones. Schneider and Lundqvist haven't hit the way people hoped. Lafreniere coming off a disappointing season. Cuylle the only real success although hopes still high for Perrault, of course.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ped

Friedman reporting that the Rangers may be looking for options for Brennan Othmann, 16th overall in 2001. Dismal NHL stats, nothing special in the AHL either.


Is there any team worse than the Rangers at developing talent? Othmann, Kakko, Robertson, Kravtsov, Andersson, Zac Jones. Schneider and Lundqvist haven't hit the way people hoped. Lafreniere coming off a disappointing season. Cuylle the only real success although hopes still high for Perrault, of course.

Well, he must be like 38 or 39 now.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Ped

Friedman reporting that the Rangers may be looking for options for Brennan Othmann, 16th overall in 2021. Dismal NHL stats, nothing special in the AHL either.


Is there any team worse than the Rangers at developing talent? Othmann, Kakko, Robertson, Kravtsov, Andersson, Zac Jones. Schneider and Lundqvist haven't hit the way people hoped. Lafreniere coming off a disappointing season. Cuylle the only real success although hopes still high for Perrault, of course.

I would take a chance on him for a very low acquisition cost (e.g. a 5th).
But yeah the Rangers are a failed re-build that is now biting them in the ass. It was masked by 3 things:
- Shesterkin, who was a brilliant pick at 118th overall
- Adam Fox engineering going there
- Panarin choosing to sign there

But in terms of their re-build itself? Absolutely awful. Those 1sts were 7th (Andersson), 9th (Kravtsov), 2nd (Kakko), 1st (AF), 16th (Othmann) and they got almost nothing out of all that.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Ped

Friedman reporting that the Rangers may be looking for options for Brennan Othmann, 16th overall in 2021. Dismal NHL stats, nothing special in the AHL either.


Is there any team worse than the Rangers at developing talent? Othmann, Kakko, Robertson, Kravtsov, Andersson, Zac Jones. Schneider and Lundqvist haven't hit the way people hoped. Lafreniere coming off a disappointing season. Cuylle the only real success although hopes still high for Perrault, of course.

I think we all know the direction this question is going to take.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I would take a chance on him for a very low acquisition cost (e.g. a 5th).
But yeah the Rangers are a failed re-build that is now biting them in the ass. It was masked by 3 things:
- Shesterkin, who was a brilliant pick at 118th overall
- Adam Fox engineering going there
- Panarin choosing to sign there

But in terms of their re-build itself? Absolutely awful. Those 1sts were 7th (Andersson), 9th (Kravtsov), 2nd (Kakko), 1st (AF), 16th (Othmann) and they got almost nothing out of all that.

It also shows why tanking doesn't guarantee anything and you still need strong drafting. Also luck to suck in the right years.

The 2018-2022 drafts were not that good at the top end where you were getting those elite stars.

2018: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, Hayton
2019: Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Byram, Turcotte
2020: Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson
2021: Power, Benier, McTavish, Hughes, Johnson
2022: Slafkovsky, Nemec, Cooley, Wright, Gauthier

Im not sure any of those guys are a McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Mackinnon level where they are Hart trophy type of winners...Jack Hughes is probably the closest to that.

Like if you drafted 1st overall all 5 of those years and had Dahlin, Hughes, Lafreniere, Power, and Slafkovsky are you a cup contender. I feel like the answer is no.

Now if you take the best guy from each draft year in hindsight and have Dahlin, Hughes, Stutzle, Johnston (probably the best guy from this draft so far), Cooley...maybe but even then it's probably not a given that you are winning a cup.

[Harry Lime]

I seemed to remember Othmann playing a power game? That kind of player is sometimes slower to develop, so I'd take a flyer.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It also shows why tanking doesn't guarantee anything and you still need strong drafting. Also luck to suck in the right years.

The 2018-2022 drafts were not that good at the top end where you were getting those elite stars.

2018: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, Hayton
2019: Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Byram, Turcotte
2020: Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson
2021: Power, Benier, McTavish, Hughes, Johnson
2022: Slafkovsky, Nemec, Cooley, Wright, Gauthier

Im not sure any of those guys are a McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Mackinnon level where they are Hart trophy type of winners...Jack Hughes is probably the closest to that.

Like if you drafted 1st overall all 5 of those years and had Dahlin, Hughes, Lafreniere, Power, and Slafkovsky are you a cup contender. I feel like the answer is no.

I like looking at the next 3 picks to evaluate if a better pick could have been made in that range.
So for NYR that looks like this:

2017: Andersson at 7, followed by Mittelstadt, Rasmussen, Tippett. All better picks but don't really change where the Rangers end up overall. Necas at 12 is the next really good pick followed by Suzuki at 13

2018: Kravtsov at 9, followed by Bouchard, Wahlstrom, Dobson. Bouchard or Dobson WAY better picks.

2019: Kakko at 2, followed by Dach, Byram, Turcotte. Byram the best of the lot but also I will acknowledge Kakko was consensus #2. Tough to fault them.

2020: AF at 1, followed by Byfield, Stutzle, and Raymond. I take any of those 3 over AF. You also have Sanderson at 5. But again, AF was the consensus #1. Ultimately for both 2019 and 2020, NYR would have better off if they had ended up with slightly lower picks with those guys off the board

2021: Othman at 16 followed by Bolduc, Lucius, Svechkov. Too early to tell, Lucius has retired. Bolduc looks good, and I think Svechkov could be a player. Of course you have Wyatt at 23 but everyone missed that.

So yeah hard to fault them entirely. Some bad luck involved too.