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View Poll Results: Are you for or against Calgary hosting the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games?
I am for Calgary hosting 285 55.66%
I am against Calgary hosting 227 44.34%
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:30 PM   #981
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Good natured joking aside, I really hope that Calgary (and our City Council) sets a higher standard of disclosure and demands better from such processes in the future, regardless of the vote result.

If the Vote goes "Yes" or if the vote goes "No" and they still continue to look at the bid or have a look back process, I hope Council realizes how ridiculous it was to have such a mess of a budget, miscommunicated plans, obvious false financial claims, insurance that does not exist, even goddamn bots stacking votes on their survey site.

"Yes" or "No", I think we can demand better from our representatives in the government and of our city. I also agree that the process has been divisive, we can do better than this. We can take the time to put together a good, clear researched proposal that at least passes a business sniff test and gets all levels of government on the same page.

We don't need to slap something together and then rush and force people to vote,
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I wouldn't hate seeing a bid for 2030 that actually has all their ducks in a row and presented properly.
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As of 5 PM it was over 207,000...so assuming many more hadnt yet and were stopping on way home from work, i think its safe to say that the 280,000 range was reached.

If so, and if the margins being reported on the first 80,000 votes are right (63% no) then I suspect this thing is just about over.

I'm not a math wiz, so this is probably wrong, but I think this means that NO currently leads by about 20,000 votes (50,000 to 30,000 using round numbers).

If so, and assuming about 200,000 votes to be counted, YES needs to be getting at least 55% of the remaining votes. That is a tall order.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:30 PM   #983
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Hopefully now we can just get back to arena talk
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:32 PM   #984
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Well, I hope the NO people have a long-term plan to upgrade those facilities with that same available federal and provincial money, and have a plan to support the design, construction, sport and tourism industries for the next decade. Those are important industries and employers in this city.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:32 PM   #985
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Is it really Bidcos fault when they didn't know what to work with in terms of funding up until the last minute?

I do wish they ran a campaign much heavier on something like that myths sheet they put out. I think this vote is won or lost on the undecided people and it should have been an easy target but instead it feels as if they pushed harder on the people who were already a yes.

Bidco absolutely has to take a big bite out of this sandwich.


I think this vote illustrates a complete lack of trust built up by a lack of transparency and it felt like a strong lack of and its probably the wrong word facts.


They weren't trustworthy.


I know just talking to friends and associates that the No side just gained a lot of traction over the last short period of time.
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Hopefully now we can just get back to arena talk

Well the Fieldhouse is still the city's top funding priority regardless of the vote here, so...
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So I assume Rick Bell will be leading a parade pack of happy frowny faced dour folks through the halls of the big blue playpen tomorrow?
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:33 PM   #988
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If so, and if the margins being reported on the first 80,000 votes are right (63% no) then I suspect this thing is just about over.

I'm not a math wiz, so this is probably wrong, but I think this means that NO currently leads by about 20,000 votes (50,000 to 30,000 using round numbers).

If so, and assuming about 200,000 votes to be counted, YES needs to be getting at least 55% of the remaining votes. That is a tall order.
It would certainly represent a pretty stunning swing in one week, and the Yes campaign will have effectively pulled off a miracle.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:33 PM   #989
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Unfortunately.. all the main stream media was pretty much a no vote.. so they controlled the agenda..

Sad.. but I know I will at least have a little bit of grin.. when this eventually costs us more in the long run.. all the upgrades and improvements eventually have to happen, with no guarantees of other level of government support.

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Uhhh what? Just as much misleading, half truths being spewed by either side.
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Unfortunately.. all the main stream media was pretty much a no vote.. so they controlled the agenda..

Sad.. but I know I will at least have a little bit of grin.. when this eventually costs us more in the long run.. all the upgrades and improvements eventually have to happen, with no guarantees of other level of government support.

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But the YES side had a fair amount of money to promote their side.

IMO the media was critical of how city council and bidco handled the Olympic process and the lack of information given to Calgarians.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:34 PM   #991
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Well the Fieldhouse is still the city's top funding priority regardless of the vote here, so...
The city's top unfunded priority.
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Unfortunately.. all the main stream media was pretty much a no vote.. so they controlled the agenda..

Sad.. but I know I will at least have a little bit of grin.. when this eventually costs us more in the long run.. all the upgrades and improvements eventually have to happen, with no guarantees of other level of government support.

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weird... i saw all the media stumping the yes vote... if it wasn't an interview with some former olympian or calgary business owner or the piles of money spent on advertising and stumping the yes agenda downtown. Including the voice of the Mayor constantly pushing the Yes vote forward...

the No side had zero funding...and its agenda was to not spend taxpayer money?

maybe people see what they want to see.
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Hopefully now we can just get back to arena talk

Yeah because that's gone so well.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:36 PM   #994
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Suck it IOC.



Find some other stooges to host your eurotrash ski orgy.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:36 PM   #995
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It will be interesting if Bidco when they close out the project releases all the actual work they did do..

And by how the vote was ran.. From my own experience and early indications.. it was ran really efficient.

And a final kick to mid section, wouldn't it be funny if the plebicte and the work that was completed is under budget.

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Good natured joking aside, I really hope that Calgary (and our City Council) sets a higher standard of disclosure and demands better from such processes in the future, regardless of the vote result.

If the Vote goes "Yes" or if the vote goes "No" and they still continue to look at the bid or have a look back process, I hope Council realizes how ridiculous it was to have such a mess of a budget, miscommunicated plans, obvious false financial claims, insurance that does not exist, even goddamn bots stacking votes on their survey site.

"Yes" or "No", I think we can demand better from our representatives in the government and of our city. I also agree that the process has been divisive, we can do better than this. We can take the time to put together a good, clear researched proposal that at least passes a business sniff test and gets all levels of government on the same page.

We don't need to slap something together and then rush and force people to vote,
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I had posted it early in this thread but I wonder how many astroturf accounts stacked the voting on this forum.

I wouldn't surprise me with them already being caught botting on the Calgary survey site.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:37 PM   #997
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Sad.. but I know I will at least have a little bit of grin.. when this eventually costs us more in the long run.. all the upgrades and improvements eventually have to happen, with no guarantees of other level of government support.
Perhaps it is more likely that the downward spiral of Calgary continues and the city ends up basically dead. No upgrades anywhere, at anytime, then ...
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Yeah because that's gone so well.
Something has to be done to make up for what a disaster this whole process was, and they are at least talking. Wouldn't be shocked to see it get done relatively quickly to make people forget. And really if Yes loses, not ensuring the arena was the centerpiece of the bid might have been a huge factor in the loss. A lot of what I'd consider the unconnected no voters were saying this wasn't worth doing without the arena.
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