01-20-2014, 10:06 AM
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#981
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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The Seahawks allowed over 20 points on the road three times, and only lost once doing so. They also allowed 10 points or fewer 4 times on the road. People can keep acting like Seattle somehow is awful away from home, but reality doesn't jive with that.
Seattle will win or lose the Super Bowl based on what its offense does. It's defense cannot be denied as the leagues best, much like Denver's offense cannot be denied as the best. Generally when its best offense versus best defense its the best defense that wins. Seattle needs 24-30 points of offense and it will be very difficult to beat them.
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01-20-2014, 10:17 AM
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#982
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Franchise Player
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Honestly I don't see Seattles O doing anything special regardless of how bad the Denver D is, they will just do enough to win the game. I think it will come down to Manning vs Seattle's Secondary.
It will either be Manning choking, or Seattle imploding.
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01-20-2014, 10:38 AM
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#983
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Lifetime Suspension
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Micheal Crabtree apparently tired to fight Richard Sherman at a charity event last offseason.
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Sherman has been upset with Crabtree since last summer. Both attended Arizona star receiver Larry Fitzgerald’s charity event. While there, Sherman went to shake Crabtree’s hand, and Crabtree tried to start a fight, according to Sherman’s older brother, Branton.
“I’m going to make a play and embarrass him,” Richard Sherman vowed that day.
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http://seattletimes.com/html/jerrybr...awks20xml.html
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01-20-2014, 10:45 AM
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#984
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Drake
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High school drama at it's finest right there.
They both could learn a few things from Fitz, just a class act.
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01-20-2014, 10:54 AM
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#985
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Calgary AB
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Seattle and Denver have the #1 ranked D and O, respectively.
Seattle has #8 offence and Denver #22 defense. So in terms of pure numbers, Seattle has a more balanced team. Peyton isn't exactly a big game player either. Defense wins championships and I think that not only will Seattle keep Peyton to under 22~ points; Wilson and Lynch will have a field day against the Denver D.
Seattle 31
Denver 20
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Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
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01-20-2014, 10:58 AM
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#986
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Seattle's achilles heal is Russel Wilson - he has not looked good for most of the season.
Denver hasn't played a defence like Seattle's yet, Seattle has not played a QB like Manning or his stable of receivers.
If the Seattle D can get pressure before the receivers can run their patterns, they will will win. If Manning has time, Broncos will win.
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01-20-2014, 11:10 AM
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#987
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the 'Dome
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Originally Posted by Howie_16
Richard Sherman is like a child. He should be seen and not heard. Still, he has been clutch all year long, and the class consistently shown by Russell Wilson more than makes up for it. I am ecstatic that the Seahawks won today against a tough 49ers team in what was the best NFL game I've seen in a while. I am also enjoying hypocritical SF fans crying & whining all over CP and my Facebook.
Number 1 defence will triumph over the number 1 offence, and poor little Bar-Down's head will implode 14 days from now.
GO 'HAWKS!
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Haha go Broncos! You might as well hop on the Canucks bandwagon too, your arrogance will fit right in!
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01-20-2014, 11:11 AM
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#988
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Brannigans Law
Seattle and Denver have the #1 ranked D and O, respectively.
Seattle has #8 offence and Denver #22 defense. So in terms of pure numbers, Seattle has a more balanced team. Peyton isn't exactly a big game player either. Defense wins championships and I think that not only will Seattle keep Peyton to under 22~ points; Wilson and Lynch will have a field day against the Denver D.
Seattle 31
Denver 20
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Yeah, his 11 playoff wins, three super bowl appearances, and one ring means he's not a big game player.
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01-20-2014, 11:12 AM
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#989
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Haha go Broncos! You might as well hop on the Canucks bandwagon too, your arrogance will fit right in!
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I understand the rivalry aspect but why try to keep shoehorning in the BS Seahawks fan/Canucks fan angle?
Seahawks fans aren't close to the worst NFL fans in the league (hello scumbag Pats fans) and outside of the annoying whining about the SB a few years ago aren't any different from most fans.
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01-20-2014, 11:19 AM
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#990
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Franchise Player
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Geezuz moon...have a Snickers bar, your sounding like a Lions fan this morning.
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01-20-2014, 11:20 AM
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#991
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Calgary AB
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Yeah, his 11 playoff wins, three super bowl appearances, and one ring means he's not a big game player.
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He's .500 in the playoffs. Woop dee doo.
edit: and 1 for 3 tries in the Super Bowl. Again, all I said he wasn't "exactly a big game player".
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
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Last edited by Brannigans Law; 01-20-2014 at 11:30 AM.
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01-20-2014, 11:21 AM
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#992
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Franchise Player
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Seahawks are my secondary NFL team and I don't cheer for the Canucks as my secondary NHL team.
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01-20-2014, 11:21 AM
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#993
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Brannigans Law
He's .500 in the playoffs. Woop dee doo
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He's also played in a poop ton of playoff games. You have to be a big game player to even get that many attempts.
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01-20-2014, 11:57 AM
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#994
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Bar-Down
Haha go Broncos! You might as well hop on the Canucks bandwagon too, your arrogance will fit right in!
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I'd rather be compared to a child molester than a Canucks or a Riders fan.
You hate Sherman for being obnoxious and rude, yet you pout and whine because your team lost to a team you hate. Why not stop being a hypocrite and start showing the class you accuse the Seahawks and their fans of lacking?
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01-20-2014, 12:17 PM
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#995
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Howie_16
I'd rather be compared to a child molester than a Canucks or a Riders fan.
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01-20-2014, 12:17 PM
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#996
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Actually I think history tends to favor the team with the number 1 offence as being more likely to win the Superbowl than not. It's just that teams like the 18-0 Patriots and Mike Martz Rams recently lost so that tends to stick in our minds.
Seattle still put up 23 points against what is a very ferocious 49'er defence. This same defence held Green Bay with it's weapons in place to 20 points at home. I'm sorry Bronco fans, but the Bronco's defence is nowhere near what the 49'er unit is like especially without Von Miller. But the one thing the Bronco defence did, was pretty much eliminate the running game for two opponents who did want to run the ball. So I do think a lot of that game is going to be in Russel Wilson's hands, and it will be his ability to make plays on offence that decide if Seattle has a chance in this game, or are methodically swept aside in games where the final score ended up looking close, but the game was never in doubt the way the Chargers and Patriots both were.
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01-20-2014, 12:21 PM
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#997
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Calgary AB
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Originally Posted by Joborule
He's also played in a poop ton of playoff games. You have to be a big game player to even get that many attempts.
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I agree he's an amazing regular season QB. One of the best ever. Top 5 QB of all time too I agree. But for whatever reason he isn't a post season winner like Brady or Montana. Tough company to be compared to I agree, but .500 in the post season isn't impressive, and if he losses Sunday he will be 1 win in 4 tries in the biggest game. Hell is little brother is 2 for 2. (He's better than Eli just saying)
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Actually I think history tends to favor the team with the number 1 offence as being more likely to win the Superbowl than not. It's just that teams like the 18-0 Patriots and Mike Martz Rams recently lost so that tends to stick in our minds.
Seattle still put up 23 points against what is a very ferocious 49'er defence. This same defence held Green Bay with it's weapons in place to 20 points at home. I'm sorry Bronco fans, but the Bronco's defence is nowhere near what the 49'er unit is like especially without Von Miller. But the one thing the Bronco defence did, was pretty much eliminate the running game for two opponents who did want to run the ball. So I do think a lot of that game is going to be in Russel Wilson's hands, and it will be his ability to make plays on offence that decide if Seattle has a chance in this game, or are methodically swept aside in games where the final score ended up looking close, but the game was never in doubt the way the Chargers and Patriots both were.
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Baltimore and Tampa Bay are good examples of #1 defenses cashing in with subpar offences. I really think the underrated Seattle offence is what gives the Hawks the edge. 8th in the league isn't anything to sneeeze at.
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
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01-20-2014, 12:37 PM
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#998
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First Line Centre
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Peyton is 1 for 2 in Super Bowls, TylerSVT. Just for the record.
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01-20-2014, 12:42 PM
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#999
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Brannigans Law
I agree he's an amazing regular season QB. One of the best ever. Top 5 QB of all time too I agree. But for whatever reason he isn't a post season winner like Brady or Montana. Tough company to be compared to I agree, but .500 in the post season isn't impressive, and if he losses Sunday he will be 1 win in 4 tries in the biggest game. Hell is little brother is 2 for 2. (He's better than Eli just saying)
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.500 may not look that great, but when he's 8th all time in playoff wins, that means he's amongst the best in winning the important games. If that doesn't make him a big game QB, then you really can't say anyone all time aside from few like Brady, Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, and Elway to name some; and the last one had trouble winning the "Big Game" in his earlier attempts. By your criteria, Rodgers couldn't be considered a big game QB. Neither could Brees. Manning would be a bigger game QB (granted, you could say he is).
Also in regards to you're earlier edit, he's .500 in the super bowls currently. This is his 3rd one.
Last edited by Joborule; 01-20-2014 at 12:44 PM.
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01-20-2014, 12:54 PM
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#1000
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Brannigans Law
Baltimore and Tampa Bay are good examples of #1 defenses cashing in with subpar offences. I really think the underrated Seattle offence is what gives the Hawks the edge. 8th in the league isn't anything to sneeeze at.
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Baltimore never beat a number one ranked offence for either of their Superbowl wins. The Raiders were the top offence back in the 2002 season....but keep in mind the guy who had put a lot of that offence in place was roaming the sidelines for Tampa that day. Not too often where a Superbowl coach will know his opponent as well as Gruden did that day being 12 months removed as Raiders coach because Al Davis pretty much sold him.
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