[News] Flames offersheet O'Reilly UPDATE: Avs match

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

I really wonder if the people who are proclaiming he becomes the Flames best player have ever actually watched O'Reilly play hockey.

Yep. Avs are my other favorite team. He'll be a little overpaid but I'd take him over any of the Flames other forwards (right now, not taking potential into account)

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

I think you are technically correct, but there is also the option of salary arbitration if he doesn't perform to the $6.5M level. I don't think he was eligible for arbitration this time hence the hold out. So I think Feaster was smart because if he performs to that level then the Flames pay him, if he doesn't they can offer him less of a deal and then file for arbitration.

The player can never receive less than 85% of his previous salary, in this case, 6.5M, so salary arbitration wouldn't be some huge boon for the team if he ends up underperforming.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Let me put this in perspective as to why I think this is actually very good for us.

Avs don't match...

Suddenly in a couple weeks our top 9 center group looks like

O'Reilly
Backlund
Stajan

+ Kipper in between the pipes

We will NOT be looking at a 14th place finish,

More like 7th-10th

Avs get a 13-16th place pick. And most likely a player not panning out even close to the caliber of an O'Reilly.

This is why.

On a side note..
Dear lord we might actually have a half decent center group soon..

I am almost willing to bet money this was EXACTLY in line with what one Brian Burke was thinking.

[Jagermeister]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

I really wonder if the people who are proclaiming he becomes the Flames best player have ever actually watched O'Reilly play hockey.

You keep talking like you know what's going to happen in the future. Like if they don't match the Flames will be able to use the money on O'Reilly for a potentially 22 year old #1 centre this team has been needing forever.

This team isn't picking in the top 5, people need to get over that.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Jagermeister

You keep talking like you know what's going to happen in the future. Like if they don't match the Flames will be able to use the money on O'Reilly for a potentially 22 year old #1 centre this team has been needing forever.

This team isn't picking in the top 5, people need to get over that.

They have never, in their entire franchise history, picked top 5 (unless you include 1972's #2 pick Jacques Richard or 1973's #2 pick Tom Lysiak in Atlanta)

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Picking up a 21 year old, still far from entering his prime years as win now is a bit odd.

Too much emphasis on age. Adding a player that will be UFA in 3 seasons, it doesn't matter how old he is. It might not be "win now", but it's "win in the next 3 seasons".

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

If O'Reilly came in here and played like Stajan did in his first two seasons, onlythis time with a 6.5M ticket.... could you imagine the uproar? lol

Well it'd be a 5M cap hit and at least it's just two years. Stajan was a four year deal albeit at 3.5M. That said, expectations are going to be through the roof for this guy - will be a ton of pressure.

[CedarMeter]

Alright, this thread is giving me headache..Not cause of the hockey talk but because my wife is yelling at me to get the hell off the computer..See ya in a week maybe sooner.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Conflicting reports. No surprise the Canucks decline they were writing an offer.

More likely serious talks, intention to actually write an offer, but got scooped. Able to say "no offer", but in reality the negotiations were all verbal.

I think there was a Canucks offer coming.

They could afford to give up the 1st and 3rd because the picks would be so late but chances are the Avs would match that offer because of that. Also I'm not sure O'Reilly would be thrilled to go there knowing that when Kessler comes back he would be 3rd on the depth chart while in Calgary he's guaranteed top line minutes.

[P-DAZZLE]

So much discussion you'd think the Flames signed Lando or Schanko.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Conflicting reports. No surprise the Canucks decline they were writing an offer.

More likely serious talks, intention to actually write an offer, but got scooped. Able to say "no offer", but in reality the negotiations were all verbal.

I think there was a Canucks offer coming.

I can't see how they'd have made the salary fit. They already need to cut salary just to get under the cap for next year, let alone adding another $5M. Unless they were going to trade Kesler or something. Just doesn't make any sense.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Too much emphasis on age. Adding a player that will be UFA in 3 seasons, it doesn't matter how old he is. It might not be "win now", but it's "win in the next 3 seasons".

Will they be releasing him in three years?

[Dime_On_Flames]

If the Avs don't match then there will be absolutely no solace in a loss anymore (high Draft pick) don't know how to feel about that

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by Dime_On_Flames

If the Avs don't match then there will be absolutely no solace in a loss anymore (high Draft pick) don't know how to feel about that

are you from Edmonton?

[handgroen]

finally i've reached the bottom of this thread

i read every post and burned probably 20 thanks
lot of well reasoned arguments and helpful news reposts.

thanks CP

also he's ours now, there's no way they match. and the GM that wants to convince everyone they'll match is Don Maloney and he is very literally playing with house money.

[moon]

Originally Posted by handgroen

finally i've reached the bottom of this thread

i read every post and burned probably 20 thanks
lot of well reasoned arguments and helpful news reposts.

thanks CP

also he's ours now, there's no way they match. and the GM that wants to convince everyone they'll match is Don Maloney and he is very literally playing with house money.

Who are the other 3 or is Mackenzie lying about them?

[dammage79]

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg
Avalanche match offer sheet.

[Erick Estrada]

LOL Avs match. Oh well at least the Flames screwed a rival team.

[burn_this_city]

Sounds like Colorado matched according to Kerr.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Matched