First nations will blockade roads as part of 'Idle No More' protest

[Rerun]

FIRST DAY OF HUNGER STRIKE (DEC. 10, 2012)

Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence announces the beginning of a hunger strike while on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Dec. 10, 2012.
Photograph by: Jean Levac, Ottawa Citizen/Postmedia News

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Up...580/story.html

LAST DAY OF HUNGER STRIKE (JAN. 24, 2013) ...

Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence speaks at a news conference in Ottawa on Thursday, Jan. 24, 2013 after being released from hospital following an overnight stay. She was held for observation after she ended her six-week hunger protest.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01...olute-victory/

This woman must have the slowest metabolism in the world.

[Azure]

Yeah, no way she actually went on a hunger strike if that is ACTUALLY what she looks like after that long.

Her face would be shallow and hollow looking.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Azure

Yeah, no way she actually went on a hunger strike if that is ACTUALLY what she looks like after that long.

Her face would be shallow and hollow looking.

yep... thats a pic taken at her Jan 24 news conference.

[RichKlit]

That picture sums up everything.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I sit in the middle on all of this, I am a foster parent, pretty well always have a native kid I am looking after, their problems are not native so much as generational.
they generally come from families who have not finished high school, often have histories of physical and sexual abuse and this leads to substance abuse issues.

Any kid, no matter what race, coming from that kind of background, will have massive problems graduating high school and doing well in life, they will also, unfortunatly have huge difficulty not passing on that history to their kids. Now anyone with any brains can see this started a hundred years ago, 5 or 6 generations and is directly related to their societies total economic and cultural displacement. In reality it is a miracle they survived at all as a people and it will take generations longer for the effect of this to flush out of their families and alternate social and culture coping strategies to develop.

I suspect there is little 'we' can do to help 'them' but at the least we should acknowledege it is historically our fault and the wonderfull country 'we' enjoy was bought at a huge cost to 'them'.

Well said. I think a lot of people truly don't appreciate the effects of generational poverty on children and how that can lead to marginalization from 50+ years ago still having a huge effect on society today. Telling someone who is the product of generations of abuse to "get over it" is asinine.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Now anyone with any brains can see this started a hundred years ago, 5 or 6 generations and is directly related to their societies total economic and cultural displacement. In reality it is a miracle they survived at all as a people and it will take generations longer for the effect of this to flush out of their families and alternate social and culture coping strategies to develop.

I suspect there is little 'we' can do to help 'them' but at the least we should acknowledege it is historically our fault and the wonderfull country 'we' enjoy was bought at a huge cost to 'them'.

I had have absolutely nothing to do with what happen 100 years ago - or even 50 years ago or 40 years ago - yet i have no choice but to pay for it.

sometimes it's better to stop looking back and to start looking forward, you need to get over the past to do that. Plenty of people have gone through the same thing and moved on - pushed forward.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

I had have absolutely nothing to do with what happen 100 years ago - or even 50 years ago or 40 years ago - yet i have no choice but to pay for it.

sometimes it's better to stop looking back and to start looking forward, you need to get over the past to do that. Plenty of people have gone through the same thing and moved on - pushed forward.

Your standard of living, your house, job, lifestyle is all totally based on what happened 100 years ago, as is mine and I've only been here 25 years.

I don't disagree that to some extent natives do need to move on to get better but that doesn't alter the fact we benefit from a land that was taken from natives and the only way to claim its none of our business is to bugger off back to where ever our fore fathers came from.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Azure

Yeah, no way she actually went on a hunger strike if that is ACTUALLY what she looks like after that long.

Her face would be shallow and hollow looking.

Eating disorder doc in Toronto says she wouldn't be standing after a hunger strike:

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/01/23...trike-says-doc

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Your standard of living, your house, job, lifestyle is all totally based on what happened 100 years ago, as is mine and I've only been here 25 years.

I don't disagree that to some extent natives do need to move on to get better but that doesn't alter the fact we benefit from a land that was taken from natives and the only way to claim its none of our business is to bugger off back to where ever our fore fathers came from.

That sounds so silly, like a bunch of kids fighting.

My standard of living, my house, job, lifestyle as everything to do with ME and my family. Not some long gone event in the past.

Please tell that to next homeless person you see.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

That sounds so silly, like a bunch of kids fighting.

My standard of living, my house, job, lifestyle as everything to do with ME and my family. Not some long gone event in the past.

Please tell that to next homeless person you see.

It seems to me that this ability to completely divorce oneself from history is a uniquely Western Canadian trait. It is both a positive and negative thing I think. But I wonder if you would be so insistent about it if the tides of history had washed you up on the shores of Somalia or in the slums of Rawalpindi when you were born?

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Your standard of living, your house, job, lifestyle is all totally based on what happened 100 years ago, as is mine and I've only been here 25 years.

I don't disagree that to some extent natives do need to move on to get better but that doesn't alter the fact we benefit from a land that was taken from natives and the only way to claim its none of our business is to bugger off back to where ever our fore fathers came from.

Every single group of people had their land taken or fought a war over land at some point. That is the way the world worked at the time.

Our standard of living, house, job and lifestyle were all created and build by the hand of the "evil conquerors". Natives weren't slaves working in our fields or toiling under the whip, they just happened to be on this land before us which for some reason means they own it from now till the end of eternity.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Makarov

It seems to me that this ability to completely divorce oneself from history is a uniquely Western Canadian trait. It is both a positive and negative thing I think. But I wonder if you would be so insistent about it if the tides of history had washed you up on the shores of Somalia or in the slums of Rawalpindi when you were born?

Well I don't it's hard to say, that did not happen. If my quality of life is tied to this countries history, then is it also responsible for the many who aren't so lucky, like "Freedom" who walks 17th ave begging for change.

Bottom line there is a solution for most people and it's not what is taking place now.

[schteve_d]

The other day as I drove along there was a Toyota Camry in front of me. As I neared an intersection I entered the right turn lane only to have the Camry cut me off and enter the turn lane. We proceed up a short road to a highway on-ramp and take it at 50 km/h - 20 km/h under the speed limit which obviously creates a dangerous situation. Traffic is whizzing by but I see an opening, take it and try to speed up to the flow of traffic before I get rear ended. As I do so the Camry lights up it's left signal and makes a no-look merge leaving me no choice but to slam on my brakes as there was traffic in the left lane.

I kind of snarl/chuckle to myself: "This has to be an Asian broad".

I see a spot in the left lane, take it, over-take the Camry and see that there is an Asian women driving it.

So, if I was right am I still racist?

[Ped]

Originally Posted by schteve_d

So, if I was right am I still racist?

Yes its racist and no you weren't right.

It didn't have to be an Asian woman. It happened to be.

[polak]

Her hunger strike is about as legitimate as this movement.

I'd love to see her definition of "liquid" diet.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Well I don't it's hard to say, that did not happen. If my quality of life is tied to this countries history, then is it also responsible for the many who aren't so lucky, like "Freedom" who walks 17th ave begging for change.

No one is saying that history is solely responsible for anything, but yes, the bolded is more or less what I am suggesting. All of our lives are connected to history in some complex, maybe non-intuitive way. It isn't productive to dwell on that, but neither is it productive to ignore it (in my opinion of course.)

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by polak

I'd love to see her definition of "liquid" diet.

"Can it blend?"

[evman150]

Originally Posted by polak

Her hunger strike is about as legitimate as this movement.

I'd love to see her definition of "liquid" diet.

Pureed cheezies and melted butter by the pound.

[Minnie]

She went on a hunger strike like I'm married to Prince William.

[polak]

I swear this whole thing is a gift that keeps on giving joke wise.

I mean if her liquid diet meant that she wouldn't actually consume any liquids then I can buy it.