'Intactivists' to San Francisco: Ban circumcision

[red '00]

[Cecil Terwilliger]

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

The second was that my brother wasn't circumcised as an infant and later had to be done because of an infection that made it painful for him to pee. He went through a lot at age 9 or 10.

This happened to my cousin as well, he eventually had to get snipped at around 9 or 10 too. I haven't really looked into it too much, but doesn't snipping help prevent from infection? I'm snipped, I'm fine with it. After hearing about what happened with my cousin, I'm sure if I have a son I'll probably have him get it done too, though I'll make sure I educate myself on the ramifications of doing/not doing it first.

[SeeBass]

Well if they are going to make this law will they also ban peircings of any kind

If it is just a tradition or even vanity as some claim perhaps you cant pierce anything till you are over 18

[SebC]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Well if they are going to make this law will they also ban peircings of any kind

If it is just a tradition or even vanity as some claim perhaps you cant pierce anything till you are over 18

That doesn't necessary follow for a few reasons:

- Some piercings will heal completely if removed.
- Most piercings happen with some form of consent from the child.

[Finny61]

Originally Posted by SebC

That doesn't necessary follow for a few reasons:

- Some piercings will heal completely if removed.
- Most piercings happen with some form of consent from the child.

With piercings usually the daughter wants to be butchered to be cool and the parents are trying to talk her out of it, because she is probably 5 and has very little experience to make informed decisions.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

This happened to my cousin as well, he eventually had to get snipped at around 9 or 10 too. I haven't really looked into it too much, but doesn't snipping help prevent from infection? I'm snipped, I'm fine with it. After hearing about what happened with my cousin, I'm sure if I have a son I'll probably have him get it done too, though I'll make sure I educate myself on the ramifications of doing/not doing it first.

There were stats posted earlier in the thread on the infection rate with something like 3/1000 circumcisions getting seriously infected.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by tete

First disclosure, I'm a girl. Okay, I can understand concern over infections and the potential to have to circumcise as an teen/adult -the pain would be intense. But I don't get the first reason - do dads and their sons routinely get together and check out each other's junk? Is there a ritual "whipping out the penis" comparison between father and son that us girls just don't know about? I have no clue what my mom's ###ayjay looks like and I"m a-okay with that. Is there severe trauma related to a son finding out he's not the "same" as his dad?

LOL! No I don't get together with my sons and and compare our junk. Although I did once have an arching/distance contest with some coworkers on the edge of a cliff. Selfishly, none of our female coworkers were willing to take time from their lunch to judge the contest. So there remains to this day disagreement on who had the best stream.

I am happy that I was circumcised. I think it looks better and is easier to keep clean. I thought it was worth the $140.00 a piece to give my sons the same trim; End of story.

[pope04]

Originally Posted by GGG

There were stats posted earlier in the thread on the infection rate with something like 3/1000 circumcisions getting seriously infected.

My circumcised cousin had a bad infection as a baby due to the procedure.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

This happened to my cousin as well, he eventually had to get snipped at around 9 or 10 too. I haven't really looked into it too much, but doesn't snipping help prevent from infection? I'm snipped, I'm fine with it. After hearing about what happened with my cousin, I'm sure if I have a son I'll probably have him get it done too, though I'll make sure I educate myself on the ramifications of doing/not doing it first.

In my brother's case the foreskin for what ever reason didn't grow at the same rate as the penis. It began restricting flow and made the hoody very painful to pull down to clean.

Frequent cleaning of the area under the hoody is important to prevent infections but, certainly one person might be more prone to infections of that area than another. I suppose it is just like yeast infections with women.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

LOL! No I don't get together with my sons and and compare our junk. Although I did once have an arching/distance contest with some coworkers on the edge of a cliff. Selfishly, none of our female coworkers were willing to take time from their lunch to judge the contest. So there remains to this day disagreement on who had the best stream.

I am happy that I was circumcised. I think it looks better and is easier to keep clean. I thought it was worth the $140.00 a piece to give my sons the same trim; End of story.

You make it sound as if it is hard to keep an uncircumsized penis clean, which is pretty far from the truth as long as you know how to use a bar of soap.

As for it looking better...well, I guess that is your opinion. If that is the only reason though, why not let them be the judge? It isn't something you can just take back once you do it. If they truly agree with you and want to "look like that" then hey, nobody here would criticize them, it is their choice.

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by simmonjam1

If it wasn't for circumcision, I would be blind today.

I was born without eyelids. My foreskin was used as 'transplanted' eyelids at birth. So in a sense you can say I'm cockeyed.

As for the desensitization during sex...ppffft...I can go a good 5 mins, instead of 2 mins. like the uncut guys.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Cain

You make it sound as if it is hard to keep an uncircumsized penis clean, which is pretty far from the truth as long as you know how to use a bar of soap.

As for it looking better...well, I guess that is your opinion. If that is the only reason though, why not let them be the judge? It isn't something you can just take back once you do it. If they truly agree with you and want to "look like that" then hey, nobody here would criticize them, it is their choice.

Cain. I seriously doubt there are many circumcised men/boys(if any) going around wishing they had a foreskin.

I've heard that from birth a human's head triples in size by the time it reaches adulthood. I've also heard that the rest of the human body grows to 5 times the size it was at birth. If this holds true for a penis than an adult being circumcised recieves a cut 5 times the size he would have recieved if he was circumcised as an infant and has 5 times the scar tissue. Circumcision is best done when a person is an infant.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Cain

You make it sound as if it is hard to keep an uncircumsized penis clean, which is pretty far from the truth as long as you know how to use a bar of soap.

As for it looking better...well, I guess that is your opinion. If that is the only reason though, why not let them be the judge? It isn't something you can just take back once you do it. If they truly agree with you and want to "look like that" then hey, nobody here would criticize them, it is their choice.

Technically, you can "restore" a foreskin over time using weights. Seriously, it's on the Penn & Teller episode--one of the more "WTF?" moments of that show.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Bob

Technically, you can "restore" a foreskin over time using weights. Seriously, it's on the Penn & Teller episode--one of the more "WTF?" moments of that show.

Obviously there are procedures, but it is a bit different to do what you described vs it coming back naturally and probably not always a pleasant experience. Why not forego the pain in the first place? I'm sure you can get knocked out if you need an adult circumcision or get more anesthetic then they are giving a child.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Cain. I seriously doubt there are many circumcised men/boys(if any) going around wishing they had a foreskin.

I've heard that from birth a human's head triples in size by the time it reaches adulthood. I've also heard that the rest of the human body grows to 5 times the size it was at birth. If this holds true for a penis than an adult being circumcised recieves a cut 5 times the size he would have recieved if he was circumcised as an infant and has 5 times the scar tissue. Circumcision is best done when a person is an infant.

Calgaryborn. I seriously doubt that there are many circumcised men/boys (if any) going around wishing that they were cut. Seems like a strange argument for doing something. If they aren't going to really care, why are we cutting off this part of the penis?

Circumcision is best done if there is a medical reason for it. It has nothing to do with age.

[red '00]

Let us not forget the classic "don't want my kid teased in the lockerooms" argument. Classic.

Growing up for me, it was pretty much 50/50 I'd say. Or at least 60/40. The occasional comment tossed around but I don't recall much hoodie teasing. never seemed to be an issue for anyone.

[JohnnyB]

[evman150]

What don't people get about cutting off parts of children's penises being wrong?

Like seriously...advocating CUTTING OFF part of a child's PENIS? WTF is wrong with you people?

In any non-medical case, it is morally reprehensible and akin to child abuse as far as I'm concerned. End of story.

[HPLovecraft]

My penis is more attractive than your weird sea monster of the darkest depths penis.

I'm glad it was done for me. Do I feel abused? Not particularly.