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View Poll Results: Who will you be voting for?
Naheed Nenshi 98 32.03%
Bob Hawksworth 4 1.31%
Barb Higgins 75 24.51%
Craig Burrows 3 0.98%
Ric McIver 38 12.42%
Paul Hughes 1 0.33%
Kent Hehr 22 7.19%
Alnoor Kassam 3 0.98%
Wayne Stewart 2 0.65%
Jon Lord 1 0.33%
Joe Connelly 4 1.31%
Bob Hawksworth 1 0.33%
Undecided 54 17.65%
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:09 AM   #81
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^^ Heartily agree. I want someone who can make the CITY more like Vancouver. Because as a CITY Vancouver is far more of the kind of place I want to live.

I do not however agree with your use of atleast. Those are two separate words.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:14 AM   #82
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Interesting to see the polls at Beyond.ca. Nenshi isn't loved over there like he is here....

Pre Higgins announcement:
http://forums.beyond.ca/st/310363/po...or-of-calgary/

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http://forums.beyond.ca/st/311086/ne...or-of-calgary/
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:15 AM   #83
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I would like to see a poll for people that are actually from this city, and that have lived here for at least the past 15-20 years. Curious to see the differences, if any, in the polling.

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Old 07-29-2010, 11:19 AM   #84
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Very interesting. At least he is on the radar with support, unlike the rest of the field. The shift from McIver to Higgins is telling. I wonder if Nenshi can push and make this a three-way race in the coming weeks.

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Interesting to see the polls at Beyond.ca. Nenshi isn't loved over there like he is here....

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http://forums.beyond.ca/st/310363/po...or-of-calgary/

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http://forums.beyond.ca/st/311086/ne...or-of-calgary/
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:28 AM   #85
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How many Bob Hawksworth's are running for mayor?
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Zero, if you consider his poll support stats.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:48 AM   #87
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He's got two votes if you add them up.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:06 PM   #88
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I would never vote for Barb Higgins.

Simply put, she is unqualified to run an organization like the City of Calgary. Under what experience does she have? Reading in this thread that she knows city issues well is laughable. So do I. I watch the news, and I watch Barb Higgins. Therefore, I know what she knows.

This, however, doesn't make me qualified to run for mayor.

Higgins has no business clout, experience or know-how. She does have name value, atleast, and some decent ideas. Nenshi, atleast, has a background that understands the root issues that this city needs to address more than Higgins does.

Someone is going to have to explain to me again why giving your vote to Barb Higgins is a wise decision. Nenshi is far more engaged in the issues that really matter. He's an open-minded thinker, and would actually have the balls (no pun intended) to implement social projects and other projects that this city needs.

Bringing Calgary into the next tier of world-class cities is something that a person like Nenshi sees; whether he follows through remains to be proven. But the point is, alteast he has the vision. Higgins and McIver wouldn't know how what to do if that vision slapped them across the face and peed in their corn flakes.
Yeah I don't get it at all. There have still been no reasonable responses to most of the points I (and others) have made about her lack of relevant experience.

To me, it basically sounds like: "I know her name, she knows the city very well (she has to, she has been the local news anchor for 20+ years!!) so clearly she is a better candidate then these other dudes whom I have never heard of".
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I'm lazy so I'll just repost what I've said elsewhere...

I don't really know who I'll vote for, but the mayor needs to have solid PR skills which is where Higgins has a definite advantage. Plus, I'd rather have someone who knows her inexperience and thus surrounds herself with competent people than someone who is convinced he knows what he is doing but is dead wrong. I also want someone who doesn't come across as a clown (Klein) or non-entity (Duerr); much as I think Bronconnier is a corporate puppet, at least he isn't an embarassment when he's representing Calgary.

Nenshi seems interesting, but he will need to get media-savvy pretty damn quick to have any chance at all. If I were him, I would've gotten into politics as an alderman first and established my rep rather than trying to get to mayor right away - if you don't have name recognition, you'd better have serious campaigning skills and lots of money backing you or you're really fighting an unwinnable battle.
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Just as a side note, Ric McIver gave a speech here in Toronto on P3 projects at a conference not too long ago.

People walked out it was so bad. He had no idea what the hell he was talking about, and as a representative for Calgary, he managed to thoroughly embarass the city infront of many national and international delegates. He thought he was an expert in the material, and came off as a complete buffoon.

For something so important, the dude couldn't even do his proper research. The guy has no clue.

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Just as a side note, Ric McIver gave a speech here in Toronto on P3 projects at a conference not too long ago.

People walked out it was so bad. He had no idea what the hell he was talking about, and as a representative for Calgary, he managed to thoroughly embarass the city infront of many national and international delegates. He thought he was an expert in the material, and came off as a complete buffoon.

For something so important, the dude couldn't even do his proper research. The guy has no clue.
I guess we can scratch two terms of being alderman off the list of things that qualify someone to be mayor.
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I guess we can scratch two terms of being alderman off the list of things that qualify someone to be mayor.
I don't trust anyone of those alderman. Most don't exactly have the best reputations, and there have been corruption rumours swirling around for years.
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I guess we can scratch two terms of being alderman off the list of things that qualify someone to be mayor.
Being an alderman has nothing to do with it. Being involved in democratic decision-making processes do.

Anyone with a sense of political process and experience as part of a governing body still has an advantage.

And oh yeah, Rick McIver is still a dud.
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Thoughts and prayers go out to Alnoor Kassam and the Alnoor Kassam campaign. Thoughts and prayers.
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Thoughts and prayers go out to Alnoor Kassam and the Alnoor Kassam campaign. Thoughts and prayers.
I don't think he ever had a chance to begin with, but... Why do you say this?
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I guess we can scratch two terms of being alderman off the list of things that qualify someone to be mayor.
So? That doesn't make him any more intelligent.
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So? That doesn't make him any more intelligent.
It's a joke. Everyone's railing on Higgins for not having experience. McIver has two terms of experience and is still an idiot. Get it? I'm typing really slowly here.
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It's a joke. Everyone's railing on Higgins for not having experience. McIver has two terms of experience and is still an idiot. Get it? I'm typing really slowly here.
Should have used green text then.
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Should have used green text then.
Green text is for when it isn't obvious.
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Green text is for when it isn't obvious.
Yeah, it wasn't. Plus, there's always a divide into two sides when it comes to civic debates on this board. Let's just say 4x4 and I usually aren't on the same side. But you wouldn't know that.
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