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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Yeah I know, and they have the strictest emissions rules there too.
To me, any griping by Americans (and Canadians) about what we do in Alberta smacks as totally hypocritical. If it's so bad, don't buy it. Problem solved. That's the only way to stick it to the oil companies. Syncrude doesn't give a $h!t if some guy from Denver doesn't go to the Stampede.
But it never happens. Everyone always wants, more, they know where it comes from and accept every drop, but then bitch about it.
It's like a drunk blaming the brewery for his problems.
"Goddamn Heineken, who do those sons of bitches think they are, making all this beer that I'm drinking? Screw Heineken, I'm never going to Germany again! Honey, where's that Heineken I was drinking? While you are at it, can you get me another Heineken please, I'm just going to have one more before I go to the liquor store".
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See, you're Canadian, too, like me. If I gripe about something going on in Alberta, it's as a fellow Canadian, not as some foreign dignitary. I hope this doesn't offend too many in the lion's den, but when discussing anything to do with the tar sands, Albertans often smack of provincialism. Not all, but many. It isn't an "us versus you" discussion. We're all part of the same country here, and, unfortunately, the fossil fuel problem is even bigger than that.
Now, the "problem" is hardly solved if I stop using anything petroleum-based. Even if every member on this board stopped using all petroleum-based products, the "problem" would not be solved. The issue of an entire globe addicted to petroleum, and unable to cope without it, goes far and beyond you or I boycotting a Texan oil company. Even if you wanted to live a totally petroleum-free life, you couldn't buy a shovel to dig yourself a hole to live in because the handle is plastic, and the company that made it used machines made of petroleum products. Even the bloody money you'd buy your survival supplies with is made of petroleum! No, our modern society needs this stuff (right now) to live. I'd say that's one of the biggest "problems, and the tar sands are just (obviously) one symptom of that.
Sometimes people do need to yell and be abrasive to make people listen. Not make s*** up like these fools, -- and most "environmental" groups don't want to make s*** up, just for the record, even though, like big business, the worst of the bunch end up seemingly representing the whole -- but with the fossil fuel issue being a world-wide phenomena, some toes will, inevitably, be stepped on.