2010 Mayors Race

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Not everyone wants to live in dumpy overpriced 50-100 year old homes close to the inner city.

Gimme a break, there are plenty of neighborhoods where you can get a new/newer home that is in an existing community. It's not a question of Sunnyside or death.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Tyler

If they want to accept my taxes as a citizen of their city, then provide me with infrastructure.

And they do, they subsidize you living way out in the boonies by building new roads and pipes and electrical lines that almost nobody else uses except for you and your neighbors......and the guy closer to the city is paying for it, even though he is less of a drain on the cities infrastructure and lives in a neighborhood that others have use for.

If you want to live in the outer edges of the city, fine. But you should be prepared to pay higher taxes in order to do so, not less.

Originally Posted by Tyler

I pretty much just want the SE LRT to be fast-tracked, which McIvor has been a strong advocate of.

One of the very few issues I agree with Blinky on!

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Gimme a break, there are plenty of neighborhoods where you can get a new/newer home that is in an existing community. It's not a question of Sunnyside or death.

Yeah I could pay $650,000-$850,000 for a 2000 sq/ft infill. Or I could live in the south in a 2000 sq/ft home for $450,000. That way instead of riding the bus because I'm house poor, I could afford to drive, go on trips, not eat catfood ect.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Yeah I could pay $650,000-$850,000 for a 2000 sq/ft infill. Or I could live in the south in a 2000 sq/ft home for $450,000. That way instead of riding the bus because I'm house poor, I could afford to drive, go on trips, not eat catfood ect.

lol, hyperbole is fun!

[Tyler]

And have a dumpy, tiny little yard and homeless people wandering through your alley ways?

Some people prefer a larger yard, and the bountiful amenities provided by large conglomerate housing development companies!

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by nik-

lol, hyperbole is fun!

Please name a neighbourhood a stones throw from downtown that isnt older than dirt or filled with overpriced infills.

Besides whats not fun about using sarcasm in an argument?

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Some people prefer a larger yard, and the bountiful amenities provided by large conglomerate housing development companies!

Fine, but then pay your share of taxes in order to make that happen. It's ######ed how in Calgary the bigger strain you are on the system, the less you pay in taxes. The character of a neighborhood should have nothing to do with the way things are assessed.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Table 5

And they do, they subsidize you living way out in the boonies by building new roads and pipes and electrical lines that almost nobody else uses except for you and your neighbors......and the guy closer to the city is paying for it, even though he is less of a drain on the cities infrastructure and lives in a neighborhood that others have use for.

If the city didn't want the tax base, then they wouldn't have bought or annexed the land. By integrating the land and those communities into the city, they have made a commitment to provide the electrical lines, roads and sewers to those citizens as well.

Just because Johnny Inner-City doesn't come out the boonies and use my powerlines doesn't mean I should be penalized for it.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Fine, but then pay your share of taxes in order to make that happen.

I don't think you understand how a contemporary municipal government taxes its citizens.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Please name a neighbourhood a stones throw from downtown that isnt older than dirt or filled with overpriced infills.

Besides whats not fun about using sarcasm in an argument?

Why does it have to be a stones throw from downtown? You immediately went to the extreme of the argument, which is why this inner city/suburb crap always turns into ######ation.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Please name a neighbourhood a stones throw from downtown that isnt older than dirt or filled with overpriced infills.

To be fair, both "old" and "overpriced" are subjective. I could hypothetically say Mount Royal based on my own hypothetical interpretation of those terms.

I will say this though, nothing in Calgary is very old. Relative to other things in Calgary, sure. In many cities though (even in North America), an early 20th century building is on the newer side of things.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Yeah I could pay $650,000-$850,000 for a 2000 sq/ft infill. Or I could live in the south in a 2000 sq/ft home for $450,000. That way instead of riding the bus because I'm house poor, I could afford to drive, go on trips, not eat catfood ect.

I have family who lives in Richmond/Signal Hill who live in a 10 year old, 2000 square foot house....valued around 450-500. It's still sprawl-city, but hey, it's a 10 minute drive downtown....and will have an LRT soon.

As an aside, it's pretty ridiculous how expensive Calgary real estate has become. Toronto pretty much feels like a more affordable option these days.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by nik-

Why does it have to be a stones throw from downtown? You immediately went to the extreme of the argument, which is why this inner city/suburb crap always turns into ######ation.

Well whats the definition of inner city? Everything outside the immediate downtown is pretty much suburbs.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Tyler

I don't think you understand how a contemporary municipal government taxes its citizens.

Haha, ok, explain it to me then.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Well whats the definition of inner city? Everything outside the immediate downtown is pretty much suburbs.

My initial comment was for him to move from the deep south to the south. I never said anything about the inner city....just move to an established neighborhood further up, and he'd have a lot of the roads/LRT he is asking for without having to wait for it.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

To be fair, both "old" and "overpriced" are subjective. I could hypothetically say Mount Royal based on my own hypothetical interpretation of those terms.

I will say this though, nothing in Calgary is very old. Relative to other things in Calgary, sure. In many cities though (even in North America), an early 20th century building is on the newer side of things.

I don't care for an older inefficient home that requires repairs or a complete renovation. Quite often they turn into a money pits, even homes that are 20 years old. Its much easier to live in a new home that doesnt have problems.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Table 5

My initial comment was for him to move from the deep south to the south. I never said anything about the inner city....just move to an established neighborhood further up, and he'd have a lot of the roads/LRT he is asking for without having to wait for it.

They are usually smaller homes that cost more than I'm willing to pay. Plus I work in an office park in Sundance, what purpose does it serve to live closer to downtown in an established neighbourhood?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I don't care for an older inefficient home that requires repairs or a complete renovation. Quite often they turn into a money pits, even homes that are 20 years old. Its much easier to live in a new home that doesnt have problems.

That's your choice, and you have the right to make it. However, it costs more and takes time to get the infrastructure to those extremes of the city. People should learn this before they make their choices.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by nik-

That's your choice, and you have the right to make it. However, it costs more and takes time to get the infrastructure to those extremes of the city. People should learn this before they make their choices.

My commute is 10 minutes. What do I have to complain about?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

My commute is 10 minutes. What do I have to complain about?

I was referring to Tyler demanding infrastructure because he doesn't have it in the deep SE.