One thing I just want to make mention of is that many of the first responders on the scene (FDNY, NYPD, Port Authority, EMS) climbed up 80 stories of stairs to get to the impact location to help people before the towers collapsed.
Firemen ran 80 stories with full kit and Scott packs up into the tower to help people. Imagine climbing all those stairs and have to actually start your job when you reach the 80th floor after you're completely exhausted, then only to have the building collapse under you. I can't even fathom that.
The thing I can remember most vividly is how I felt when I realised just how horrific and significant these events were. I remember my family crowded around the television when I woke up, and I asked what was going on and my step dad told me that a plane had accidentily crashed into one of the World Trade Centers.
I remember my mom asking "Where do you think all the people in that building are going?" and my step dad replied "Well, they're probably moving them into the other building." The second he said that the other plane hit with that terrifying explosion, and I remember him saying really slowly and astonishedly "Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, its an attack".
As a sixth grader, it was the first significant world changing event that I'd ever experienced. It changed the way I viewed the world. I was living in the States at the time, so its not just that day I'll never forget, its the also the months afterward. All the paranoia and terror, all the patriotism, every news piece being about it. Everyone asking "When and where are they gonna strike next?", it was a very tense time. Definitely life changing.
I think a lot of people will be surprised with what he says.
I have never perceived him to be the stupid idiot that so many think he is. I just think he had bad people in his administration that he allowed to control the direction the US was going.
His greatest accomplishment, to me, will always be taking the advice of General Petraeus, and despite a 30% approval rating and numerous people within his OWN administration disagreeing with him, not to mention all the Democrats, putting more troops in Iraq and turning the WHOLE campaign around in months.
Cheney has openly talked that he felt Bush pushed him out of the way during his 2nd term. Geez, I wonder why.
A President that will always be remembered, that is for sure. Rightly or wrongly.
i don't see how history won't remember Bush as one of the worst presidents of our time. from preying on Americans fears to start a war in Iraq, to completely ignoring Bin Laden, to criminal negligence during the worst natural disaster in US history. then to top it all off he inherited the largest government surplus in US history from Clinton and managed to turn it into the largest deficit in history, and then having a massive recession to hit at the end of his reign as a cherry on top
i can't think of one positive thing that happened as a result of his presidency. from the Patriot Act to No Child Left Behind, everything he touched was a disaster
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I think a lot of people will be surprised with what he says.
I have never perceived him to be the stupid idiot that so many think he is. I just think he had bad people in his administration that he allowed to control the direction the US was going.
His greatest accomplishment, to me, will always be taking the advice of General Petraeus, and despite a 30% approval rating and numerous people within his OWN administration disagreeing with him, not to mention all the Democrats, putting more troops in Iraq and turning the WHOLE campaign around in months.
Cheney has openly talked that he felt Bush pushed him out of the way during his 2nd term. Geez, I wonder why.
A President that will always be remembered, that is for sure. Rightly or wrongly.
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i don't see how history won't remember Bush as one of the worst presidents of our time. from preying on Americans fears to start a war in Iraq, to completely ignoring Bin Laden, to criminal negligence during the worst natural disaster in US history. then to top it all off he inherited the largest government surplus in US history from Clinton and managed to turn it into the largest deficit in history, and then having a massive recession to hit at the end of his reign as a cherry on top
i can't think of one positive thing that happened as a result of his presidency. from the Patriot Act to No Child Left Behind, everything he touched was a disaster
Not to mention the millions of dollars worth of weapons sold to Israel. And they wonder why the Middle east hates America so much.
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i don't see how history won't remember Bush as one of the worst presidents of our time. from preying on Americans fears to start a war in Iraq, to completely ignoring Bin Laden, to criminal negligence during the worst natural disaster in US history. then to top it all off he inherited the largest government surplus in US history from Clinton and managed to turn it into the largest deficit in history, and then having a massive recession to hit at the end of his reign as a cherry on top
i can't think of one positive thing that happened as a result of his presidency. from the Patriot Act to No Child Left Behind, everything he touched was a disaster
Well I did say 'rightly or wrongly.'
My point was that he will be remembered because 9/11 happened on his watch, and not really because of all the other things.
Nobody really remembers Presidents for policy enactments like No Child Left Behind.
Well, I could find more positives than that blatantly biased comic could, but since nobody cares, why bother?
Comics like that remind me of all the people who refuse to give Obama credit on the things he did well. Or has done well.
go ahead, list some positives for Bush. i'd actually like to see some because i can't think of anything. and i wouldn't count the surge as a positive, seeing as the war should have never happened anyway and the way it was so badly mismanaged at the start negates any positive that the surge did
go ahead, list some positives for Bush. i'd actually like to see some because i can't think of anything. and i wouldn't count the surge as a positive, seeing as the war should have never happened anyway and the way it was so badly mismanaged at the start negates any positive that the surge did
You don't see the surge as a positive? Bush literally had to fight against every single person in his administration to implement it.
Humanitarian work in Africa.
Got the Tsunami response right, despite screwing up with Katrina.
Turning around the economy post 9/11, something a lot of people forget.
Killed the Kyoto Treaty. IMO it was a good thing, given what it demanded.
I could find more, but I'm not about too. It doesn't really matter. No matter what Bush did agenda wise, he will always be remembered as the President on whose watch 9/11 happened, and the way he responded afterwards.
Quite honestly, while I can find positives....you'd be stupid to think you can't find something ANY President has done, the negative things far outweigh anything positive he did.
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Quite honestly, while I can find positives....you'd be stupid to think you can't find something ANY President has done, the negative things far outweigh anything positive he did.
The negatives of Bush outwiegh the negatives of other presidents. I can forgive Clinton for the BJ incident but Bush....Forget it!
