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Old 08-18-2009, 03:49 PM   #81
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no, just seemed whiney just like inthe heckle thread from last year

Wow... you been waiting all year to try and call me a whiner for that or what? Get a life, seriously.
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Get a life, seriously.
I vote no IgiTang!
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Old 08-18-2009, 03:52 PM   #83
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As there is enough people, depending on user participation, seems like we're ready to go, how about drawing for Calgary? Get that out of the way at least. If the new people can stay committed I don't see why not to let them stay, if they slow down the draft then boot 'em out.

Since this will be a huge draft, what time-frame will we give for picks? 15-30 minutes or an hour? Give a day to gather info, then draft?
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:11 PM   #84
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I don't believe participation in this - or anything - should be based on post count. That just results in an organization seen as a clique. I agree there needs to be an eye on committment, but that goes for anyone involved new or old.

I've seen keeper leagues where there are weekly meetings to waive and pickup players and if you missed a few meetings your team was put on ice. This sounds a lot more manageble and a much better way to get started.

However, it should still be expected a couple of teams will orphan throughout the year and a couple of teams will become available in the summer. It's the nature of the beast, especially at the start. Over the course of several years though, there will be a common core of participants every year which will make this a ton of fun.
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The Vancouver would like to announce Cody Hodgson as the #1 overall pick:

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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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. That just results in an organization seen as a clique.

I've seen keeper leagues where there are weekly meetings to waive and pickup players and if you missed a few meetings your team was put on ice. This sounds a lot more manageble and a much better way to get started.

However, it should still be expected a couple of teams will orphan throughout the year and a couple of teams will become available in the summer. It's the nature of the beast, especially at the start. Over the course of several years though, there will be a common core of participants every year which will make this a ton of fun.
I agree completely. With your first point, it does look a bit like a clique. With the Heckle, thats the way it seemed. But I could understand why, the guys know each other and have had a blast playing stick and drinking. So I had to take the conformist approach and while not liking the result, I had to suck it up.

Regarding the weekly meetings, again I agree that this is the best way to ensure that GM's remain active. However for me, that would probably be a bit of a deal breaker for me. I cant commit to any specific times or a weekly schedule as my training over the next year will vary from week to week/ month to month.

As for perhaps getting a team down the road, I would be interested in that, however I would be concerned of having to take someones scraps over. It would be like inheriting the Edmonton Oilers.
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I could not tell from the OP or the thread title what this is about. What is a dynasty league?
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I could not tell from the OP or the thread title what this is about. What is a dynasty league?
Its a keeper league. So you pick your players once and keep them forever, but you get to draft every year the prospects coming into the league to replenish the system.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:32 PM   #89
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So there is no farm team right?
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Ah, missed out. Well I realize there's already a sort of line up to get in but if you're looking for replacements for anyone can I get on the list as well please?

In the mean time, I'll commence operation get someone already signed up banned to get me a spot. I kid
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If there is a spot open, and noone wants it right now I will take it.

If someone already has claimed it I dont want to be pushing someone out because of my post count.

I would be willing to be the guy who takes over if someone falters or steps down.
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I have a few questions about how the league and draft will be ran.

First, as Superflyer has mentioned, is there a farm team?

Since the teams are to be built within the salary cap, what happens when a player signs a new contract for a larger amount, and the real life cap hit puts a GM in this fantasy league over the cap? Do we have to trade/cut somebody to get back under the cap? I'm assuming that is the case, but I'd like clarification. I've never been in a keeper league that was subject to a salary cap before, so new contracts and changing salaries puts a whole new wrinkle on things.

As for conducting the draft, I agree we should start as soon as possible, but I would like to know all the rules first. Also, somebody suggested a time limit for making the picks. Keep in mind that some of us have businesses to run and jobs to do, so a little bit of allowance for your real life occupations needs to be kept in mind.
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Also I am leaving tomorrow for the Lake (supposed to FINALLY be a nice weekend) I wont be home till next Monday/Tuesday
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More questions ...

Will the salary cap of this keeper league be tied to the NHL salary cap?

Also, what will the scoring system be? Straight points, or will stuff like +/- or hits count? What about goalies? Points for wins only? Do their assists (& goals) count? Will shutouts, saves, etc be worth anything?

Stuff like scoring and how the cap will be handled really affect draft strategy, so the sooner all those logistical details are figured out, the sooner we can start doing our homework and developing a draft strategy.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:15 PM   #95
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Ok stang gets the Predators.

Flamestalker gets whichever team is vacated by the Flames winner.

Igitang is first on the waiting list, meaning as soon as a team opens it's his.

We will decide on a time and day of the draft when more ppl can be around, but you can always send in wishlists in advance if you can't make it.

The salary cap will be 60 million and will not be tied to the NHL one and won't fluctuate.

Yes NHL cap hits are assumed but as soon as a player signs a new deal in real life it will change his cap hit in the league - which will lend itself well to more trading and stuff, in order to stay under the cap.

I have started a site, may as well register and get yourself signed up with your name and MSN.

League scoring will likely be very basic, ie goals, assists, wins, shutouts because it really skews which players are more valuable once you add stuff like plusminus, shots, blocked shots, hits, etc.

PM me with any more questions or ask them on the site because this thread is getting cluttered.

www.calgarypuckdynastyleague.com
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I will do the random lottery for Calgary, later tonight.

I just finished the CBA of the league which should answer most of your questions. It is on the site.
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I will do the random lottery for Calgary, later tonight.

I just finished the CBA of the league which should answer most of your questions. It is on the site.
With the lottery for the Flames, does that open a team up from whomever is awarded Calgary?
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With the lottery for the Flames, does that open a team up from whomever is awarded Calgary?
Yep!



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Don't put my name in the hat, I don't want the Flames....
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Don't put my name in the hat, I don't want the Flames....
Same here! Flames suck! GO Canucks GO.
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