There are times where it's a little hard to tell who is who, but outside of strapping them with white uniforms for the autobots and black uniforms for the decepticons, what else can you do??
I didn't find it any harder to distinguish than the first one and I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Redesign them so they aren't all the same jumble of mechanical bits. The thing I don't like the most about the movie are the designs. They are all ugly and look like robot bugs I want to squish. I don't want to root for Bumblebee, I want him to put a paper bag over his ugly face.
Redesign them so they are all the same jumble of mechanical bits. The thing I don't like the most about the movie are the designs. They are all ugly and look like robot bugs I want to squish. I don't want to root for Bumblebee, I want him to put a paper bag over his ugly face.
Then you would bitch that all the mechanical bits are all the same and that Michael Bay can't be original and blah blah blah......there's no winning with you when it comes to the movie and christ, you haven't even seen it yet.
Then you would bitch that all the mechanical bits are all the same and that Michael Bay can't be original and blah blah blah......there's no winning with you when it comes to the movie and christ, you haven't even seen it yet.
Well, as I hated the actual Star Wars as a kid, you can say this is 'my' version of the Star Wars childhood being raped...except it's Michael Bay and Lorenzo di Bonaventura (I hate Lorenzo di Bonaventura even more than Bay) doing it instead of George Lucas.
Lorenzo di Bonaventura is the one who insisted they have mechanical "mouths and teeth" because he thought that audiences can't possibly relate to robots who do not have mouths when they speak.
Terminator has a worldwide gross of over 321 million with a budget of 200
Wolverine has made 360 million with a budget of 150
Watchmen has made 182 with a budget of 130
So you're statement of "bombing at the box office due to their overall crappiness" doesn't really hold much water.
Land of the Lost.....you're bang on with that one.
I think the general rule of thumb is that a film doesn't turn a profit until its ticket sales double its budget. Wolverine is the only one that is even in the black, and was probably the closest to meeting expectations. Most studios would expect their movies to make back their budget domestically, and Watchment, and Terminator definitely didn't do that. Compare that to Star Trek, for example: $150 budget, $240 domestic. Terminator $200 budget, $119 domestic.
Well, as I hated the actual Star Wars as a kid, you can say this is 'my' version of the Star Wars childhood being raped...except it's Michael Bay and Lorenzo di Bonaventura (I hate Lorenzo di Bonaventura even more than Bay) doing it instead of George Lucas.
Lorenzo di Bonaventura is the one who insisted they have mechanical "mouths and teeth" because he thought that audiences can't possibly relate to robots who do not have mouths when they speak.
Oh, that's why you don't like it. The old "my childhood being raped" argument. zzzzzzzzz.......if they made the movie exactly like the cartoons, most of the stuff would come off as lame. If Bumblebee was a old VW bug, that would look so lame. Stuff that was cool in a cartoon 25 years wouldn't always translate to being cool today. Nostalga is so overrated.
I hated Star Trek XI because I went in with high expectations and the thing to me was pooo.
I went into Star Trek XI with high expectations and a sense of wonderment and immense desire to be amazed and surprised by how they would remake everything. I purposely ignored everything on the internet and TV relating to the movie for 2 years (hard in this day and age) to ensure that I wouldn't be spoiled by anything...and I was blown away. So much so that I decided that for the first time in my life, I'd pay to watch a movie twice in the theatres.
So I watched Star Trek XI the 2nd time...and this time I expected what I saw last time and had all the plot holes in my head and it was "meh". I have no interest in seeing that film again. I hated Chris Pine's Kirk the 2nd time around.
I think the general rule of thumb is that a film doesn't turn a profit until its ticket sales double its budget. Wolverine is the only one that is even in the black, and was probably the closest to meeting expectations. Most studios would expect their movies to make back their budget domestically, and Watchment, and Terminator definitely didn't do that. Compare that to Star Trek, for example: $150 budget, $240 domestic. Terminator $200 budget, $119 domestic.
Last I checked, the movies in question are still making money across the globe so this argument can't really be settled for at least a couple more months.
Oh, that's why you don't like it. The old "my childhood being raped" argument. zzzzzzzzz.......if they made the movie exactly like the cartoons, most of the stuff would come off as lame. If Bumblebee was a old VW bug, that would look so lame. Stuff that was cool in a cartoon 25 years wouldn't always translate to being cool today. Nostalga is so overrated.
I don't want it to be exactly like my childhood - but basically all the decisions, story-telling, aesthetic look, designs, and art style is basically the complete opposite of all the things I like. I think those robots are the ugliest things I've ever seen.
I am a person who inherently hates things if they don't fit into my view of how I would like things to look. That's always been my nature. I've always been depressed even as a kid when I'm inside ugly buildings. I've always been unhappy when I see ugly cars, etc...
That's another part of my beef with the movie. The all GM-car line-up. BARF!!! In fact, I probably care more about the art and design than I do the actual story or plot or anything in the movie.
My soon-to-be-ten-year-old son has been desperate to see it for MONTHS, and we have planned to take him for his 10th birthday on Friday. I had noticed this morning that the film is rated 14+ for "violence". Can anyone comment on the rating and whether it may be unsuitable for a ten-year-old boy? It's Transformers, so I am going in with the assumption that pre-pubescent testosterone factories form a significant part of the intended audience, but I don't really want to be too surprised.
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My soon-to-be-ten-year-old son has been desperate to see it for MONTHS, and we have planned to take him for his 10th birthday on Friday. I had noticed this morning that the film is rated 14+ for "violence". Can anyone comment on the rating and whether it may be unsuitable for a ten-year-old boy? It's Transformers, so I am going in with the assumption that pre-pubescent testosterone factories form a significant part of the intended audience, but I don't really want to be too surprised.
If you let your son see the first one, then it's fine......I did notice however a little bit of swearing. Not f words, just minor profanities. but quite a few of them.
I would say it's fine for a 10 year old, but I'm not a parent, so I don't know the mindset. There's plenty of violence, but it's robot violence, so it's not a big deal with no blood or anything.
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My soon-to-be-ten-year-old son has been desperate to see it for MONTHS, and we have planned to take him for his 10th birthday on Friday. I had noticed this morning that the film is rated 14+ for "violence". Can anyone comment on the rating and whether it may be unsuitable for a ten-year-old boy? It's Transformers, so I am going in with the assumption that pre-pubescent testosterone factories form a significant part of the intended audience, but I don't really want to be too surprised.
There isn't a drop of blood. It might be rated 14+ for dirty jokes and sexual references and Megan Fox's cleavage.
I see no problem in taking a 10 year old
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The problem is that when it comes to blockbusters hollywood is pushing out 25 movies at the Transformers 2 level of quality for every 1 that ends up being the Dark Knight level of quality. And people keep going, so they just make sequels that are even worse because they know they can make money. Transformers 2 is the Nickelback of movies.
You mean that thing that everybody (fashionably) seems to hate in public, but half of them undoubtedly have the cd/dvd at home on their shelf? There is a reason why these things make so much $$$ and sell so many tickets/copy's. It's because they are not half as bad as most "entertainment snobs" make them out to be and they are actually a whole lot better than 90% of their competitors in the market.
That being said, I'm not a Nickelback fan (but I don't spit out the hate like everybody seems to), but I can't wait to see Transformers 2 this weekend.
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You mean that thing that everybody (fashionably) seems to hate in public, but half of them undoubtedly have the cd/dvd at home on their shelf? There is a reason why these things make so much $$$ and sell so many tickets/copy's. It's because they are not half as bad as most "entertainment snobs" make them out to be and they are actually a whole lot better than 90% of their competitors in the market.
That being said, I'm not a Nickelback fan (but I don't spit out the hate like everybody seems to), but I can't wait to see Transformers 2 this weekend.
Yeah there is a reason. Its because people are easily led. Big budget marketing works. Its got little to do with quality, as Nickelback and Transformers prove.
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Michael Bay should make videogames instead of movies, he'd probably actually be pretty good at that. However, as directors go, he is not only the biggest example of what sucks in movies currently, he has had a pernicious effect on other "directors" who see that his movies are successful and thus emulate his "style".
I'm with those who'll watch it for free when it hits Movie Central, and I'll probably read something at the same time and just pay attention when something is getting blown up. There's a reason these movies get terrible reviews from critics, and it has nothing to do with elitism - if you're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a movie, allocate more than .00001 percent of that to the script and continuity.
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