It's not always that simple. My sister and her ex went through a divorce some 7 years ago. She found out that he was cheating on her and the kids knew. I don't see how it would have been better if they stayed together.
I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
Your sister's ex was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
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I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
He was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
I was talking about Dion's sister's ex, not Jon. I don't know the whole story about Kate and Jon and I don't really care to.I do feel sorry for their kids who had no say in this matter and are the ones who are going to be the most affected by it.
I was talking about Dion's sister's ex, not Jon. I don't know the whole story about Kate and Jon and I don't really care to.I do feel sorry for their kids who had no say in this matter and are the ones who are going to be the most affected by it.
Hahah sorry, I skipped a page or 2
Yep, the kids are always the ones getting screwed in any situtation like this.
Ya, what is it with the TV programs that some women watch? I just refer to the TV drivel my wife watches as the "What Not To Wear While Renovating The Back Yard Of Your Real Estate Flip" show. .
Yeah, I have to watch that sort of crap with my wife sometimes but she is also hooked on "Top Gear"
So all's not so bad. Top Gear is awesome.
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I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
Your sister's ex was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
1) I didn't double check this--but it seems more guys are talking about this situation than women in this thread. Funny how that works, when we're supposed to be the ones who watch this crap all the time (I admit I watched last night's episode, but other than that, all I know of it is what they show on The Soup.).
2) For what it's worth, to me it seems like What Not to Wear actually offers some knowledge to its viewers. Because I've seen a whole lot of women out there who have absolutely no idea how to dress themselves. If WNTW manages to get a woman who should be wearing a size 16 out of a size 8 and a belly shirt with rolls hanging out all over the place, I think that it benefits all of us.
It's not so much about "labels" and what's the hippest, most trendy fashion, it's about teaching a person how to dress so they don't look like a complete idiot.
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It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
Cheating in marriage = instant divorce you whore bag.
I had no idea who these people were before I saw this thread, and now after talking to the gossipy ladies at my work I can see that wow, this is a trainwreck of Edmontonian proportions. Dude, stop the TV show and attempt to reconcile if that's your thing. Hope Supercuts mom has fun having her disgusting excuse of a motherhood recorded on video for her kids to watch once they hit HS.
Speaking of TLC shows, when did Mythbusters add the "other" crew? I find that their experiments and results are far crappier than Jamie and Adam.
Though it is still interesting. Just watched one where they tried to replicate the Hollywood heist (like using foundation to illuminate laser security systems), and one with breaking out of jail. I just like Jamie and Adam a lot more.
I'm by no means a Mythbusters fan, but I definetly like the "other" crew better the seldom times I do watch it. Jamie and Adam, I forget which one is which, but one's a big ###### and the other tries to be that random childish funny but fails horribly. The thing with Jamie and Adam is they get to do the interesting myths and the other crew gets stuck with crap.
Adam: today we're going to try and do something with massive jets, maybe a cannon or two, we'll try to throw in a couple ninjas and then end up blowing up what ever is left. The other crew is going to see if a tree has feelings by gently talking to it.
But now I am way off topic of this oh so important thread :P
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While it may be that Jon, now 32, has hit an early mid-life crisis, or has simply become tired of his wife's nagging, one psychiatrist believes that the couple would have remained married, or at least not split up so quickly, had they not been on the show for two reasons.
"One is that I think Kate's criticism or put-downs, Kate's controlling and demeaning attitude toward Jon, became heightened because she was on television. She was playing to the camera. She wanted to show everyone that she was the poor wife who had to suffer with Jon," Dr. Carole Lieberman told CTV.ca in a telephone interview from Beverly Hills.
"And Jon became humiliated and felt as though he had to leave in order to show the world that he was a man and his celebrity status now gave him the self-esteem to think that he could get other women. So neither of those things would have happened had they not been on television."
Kate is in such denial, thinking this is all Jon's fault, but she is so self indulged and such a beeotch..I'm glad Jon finally grew some, but I still wish for the sake of the kids they could have gone to marriage counceling, and at least tried for 8 kids sake! I think at this point Jon is almost giddy about getting out from under her regime. I don't think Kate is the type to take any blame for anything though. She has alienated every family member of hers and Jons over the years now. Doesn't that give her a clue?
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1) I didn't double check this--but it seems more guys are talking about this situation than women in this thread. Funny how that works, when we're supposed to be the ones who watch this crap all the time (I admit I watched last night's episode, but other than that, all I know of it is what they show on The Soup.).
Considering the ratio of men-women on CP is at least 10-1; if not a lot higher... I think that might explain it.
Alot of people in here talk about marriage counciling like it is some great method of keeping a marriage together........yet marriage counciling as a whole has not even put a dent in the 50+% divorce rate....
love=passion+respect.................when one partner loses respect for the other, its over plain and simple. I dont watch Jon & Kate, but it sounds to me like Kate doesn't respect Jon because he has no balls, therefore their marriage is over.
What fascinates me about the show now is the machinations of network television. All those advertisers and product placements they whored their families to are riding this all the way to the end, taking every last opportunity to advertise and sell their wares on the backs of this misery. A part of me secretly loves it - they made their deal with the devil and its literally costing them a pound of flesh. How anyone in this day and age could not see it coming, I don't know, but I guess all that money and fame is awfully seductive.
Bit insulting - I watch neither programmes. Not all women are empty headed and obsessed by gossip and fashion.
Hey!! Not all women are empty headed just because they are slightly obsessed with gossip and fashion. It's called "mindless entertainment" and I admit to enjoying it. But I'm not empty-headed.
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The thing that gets me is that Kate keeps saying that everything she does is for the children, but the ONE THING they need the most is parents who love each other and the biggest thing ANYONE can do for their children is have a loving marriage. The spouse should ALWAYS be first because when the marriage is happy, so are the children.
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