Tipping Etiquite [Split from the Money & Friends Thread]

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

25-30% for service I consider to be better than what was required
15% for average.
0% for bad

The ceiling for me is really unlimited and depends on the food service and service quality. When I was in San Fran with my former g/f we went to this really ###### place - food was expensive and portions were pathetic but service was fantastic, probably the best I ever had. I made a point of tipping 5$ and personally giving the server 50$ (probably a 40%+ tip, largest % I have ever given). Because IMO the restraunt staff didnt deserve the tip, the server did. It didnt hurt that she was fairly attractive and even my g/f thought she did an excellent job.

I dont know if she split the tip with the rest of the staff or not. If she did, she did them a service cause apart from her, the restraunt was complete faux crap.

For tipping other services, I really detest tipping most pizza places so I pickup most of the time. I always use self service cause I again I hate the thought of tipping station attendents. I do tip at the place I get my hair cut cause at MVP I have never had a bad hair cut and they also arent pushy like other places over selling their product.

See I don't agree with the not tipping because you pick up your pizza. My kids works in a pizza parlour and when he's alone in there on a Saturday night and he is busting it to get your pizza ready for you on time, I think it's cheap not to tip.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by redforever

Anyone who complains about the method of tipping probably does not deserve a good tip.

I always round off the bill to an even dollar, paying cash, or paying by credit card or debit card. I do however, always round up, not down, when determining the tip, provided of course that I got good service. And that is always what the tip is based on, the service I received.

I'm not sure I follow -- if your bill comes to $25.64, you'll pay $26?

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I'm not sure I follow -- if your bill comes to $25.64, you'll pay $26?

I think you missed the first couple of pages of this thread where we talked about rounding.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by troutman

I worked in a lot of kitchens, and not once did the waitresses ever share tips with us.

Plenty of places do it now, it's usually either 4-5% on every bill goes into a pot for the kitchen staff or else everyone pools ALL the tips and everybody gets a share. They do the latter quite a bit at places in California and Nevada for some reason, based on my admittedly non-scientific survey of cocktail waitresses at sleazy dives.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

See I don't agree with the not tipping because you pick up your pizza. My kids works in a pizza parlour and when he's alone in there on a Saturday night and he is busting it to get your pizza ready for you on time, I think it's cheap not to tip.

Ummm, is that his job?

I don't get a tip when I do my job...

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

So my question is this: If a friend/family member/significant other/co-worker, etc.. treats you to a meal and they tip terribly, is it rude of you towards the person treating you to pull out some coin and add to their tip? As by doing so, you're basically announcing to them that you think they're a cheap-ass tipper.

Yeah, if you've got cash, it's easy and not too rude to say, 'hey, thanks for dinner, the least I can do is get the tip,' and then give them back their four bucks and add a real tip.

However, I've been in that same situation where a friend was taking me out for dinner, and I didn't bring my wallet, and then he tipped about $4 on a $60 meal. There was only one waitress serving about eight tables, and she did a great job all things considered. I felt awful about her getting such a bad tip. I handled it like this:
Me, knowing I have no money with me: "Wow, thanks for dinner. Let me get the tip, it's the least I can do."
Him: "Okay, sure."
Me, taking the bill, start adding it: "Let's see, fifty, times fifteen percent, that should be... uh..."
Him: "Eight?"
Me: "Yeah, about eight. Service was pretty good, should we call it ten?"
Him: "Yeah, and she was cute too. Ten sounds good."
Me: "Oh damn, I didn't bring my wallet, since I knew you were paying."

At this point, he's already agreed that $10 is a fair tip, and he'd look like a big ass for not ponying up at that point, so of course he puts in the rest. Tactful? I thought so. The waitress gets a fair tip, he gets to look generous, and I look slightly stupid for forgetting my wallet.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Ummm, is that his job?

I don't get a tip when I do my job...

Oh come on man, making Pizza by yourself on a Saturday night is brutal. And hard work! Its not like working a 7-11 graveyard or a video store where you basically take money and smoke weed all night.

The kid is working a hard working job for crap pay, because thats the reality of being a teenager in Calgary and having a job. However, this doesn't mean you need to be arrogant and forget what it was like to be there. A small tip to that kid might mean a hell of a lot.

[DuffMan]

RE: Waitresses sharing tips.
The waitress I dated always tipped the bartender at the end of the night. This was in a lounge mind you, I don't know how it works for kitchen staff. When you think of a waitress tipping a bartender, I guess she is thanking him for good service, so she can give better service and get bigger tips.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Oh come on man, making Pizza by yourself on a Saturday night is brutal. And hard work! Its not like working a 7-11 graveyard or a video store where you basically take money and smoke weed all night.

The kid is working a hard working job for crap pay, because thats the reality of being a teenager in Calgary and having a job. However, this doesn't mean you need to be arrogant and forget what it was like to be there. A small tip to that kid might mean a hell of a lot.

Yeah, but does the tip go to that kid only? Or does the slacker that rang me through or the a-hole that answered the phone get a cut of that?

I worked in a kitchen when I was a teen and I never got a penny out of the servers. I made more money than them and I got to leave when my shift was over. That is the way it worked.

Maybe I am just a prick but why does someone deserve a tip for doing their job? Do the kids in retail who are making the same amount get a tip when they spend hours selling someone $400 worth of clothing on a really busy day?

[Cowboy89]

I think tipping is one of those things to see who is petty and can't sweat the small stuff in life. 10% bad service, 15% average, 20% and above for great service, all on the full pre-tax bill. If your the type who is going to argue on how much effort the server put in, or how much hypothetical markup there is on food or booze items, how spoiled rotten the hot upper-middle class white teenager is and how they don't deserve your hard-earned cash, yadda, yadda, yadda, just plain avoid going out to restaurants or start eating in restaurants that are more in your price/class range.

In North America it's customary for the tipping system to be as described above and the compensation schemes of these types of businesses are stuctured with that in mind. In high quality restaurants where wine bottles are $100 a bottleand up and entrees are $45 usually I find the wait staff are in their mid20s to mid 30s and know a heck of a lot about their menus, winelinsts, and practically wipe your ass. If paying $30 on a $200 meal for two just makes you want to die inside either you don't belong there, it's a special ocassion and you should have already mentally prepared to spend a lot, or you are a cheapskate. Simply don't go.

If the restaurant overprices things and the service is not up to snuff, just pay the damn 10% tip, don't go back, and when the topic of restaurants comes up among friends recommend they avoid it. In time the server and restaurant reaps what they/it sows and doesn't need a "This one's for the little guy getting oppressed by a cartel of juggernaut restauranteurs" 5% or lower tip routine as if somehow one's cheapness had an altruistic component. The latter of which must really make one popular with friends and the ladies!

[V]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Oh come on man, making Pizza by yourself on a Saturday night is brutal. And hard work! Its not like working a 7-11 graveyard or a video store where you basically take money and smoke weed all night.

The kid is working a hard working job for crap pay, because thats the reality of being a teenager in Calgary and having a job. However, this doesn't mean you need to be arrogant and forget what it was like to be there. A small tip to that kid might mean a hell of a lot.

Pffft, hard work.

I made minimum wage working 12 hour days installing carpet with my dad. I never made no friggin' tip. Never would've dreamed of asking for one either.

I can't believe the sense of entitlement people in the service industry have.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I'm not sure I follow -- if your bill comes to $25.64, you'll pay $26?

No, I figure out what the tip would be, so at 15%, the tip would be roughly $3.75, so we are now looking at a bill of approximately $28.40, I round that up to $29.00

[Deegee]

I always thought a tip was something you had to earn.

If service is poor, I don't tip. I don't care if it's expected.

If service is good, I tip well.

[Cawz]

Originally Posted by pepper24

What's everyone's view on tipping gas station attendents (full service).

I saw someone try to tip a pump jockey once and the guy looked at him like he was from Mars. Someone who pumps gas deserves a tip more than many other people. They pump your stinky gas in rain or freezing cold. That more deserving than many servers (especially a bartender who just opens a bottle of beer and hands it to you).

My pet peeve is people who put a tip jar out at the liquor store. I grab a case of beer and hand him my credit card and he expects a tip for swiping my card?

[Ford Prefect]

If I'm paying cash I always even it out ... I hate pocket change. My formula is to triple the GST and round up to the nearest five (unless rounding down is 50 cents or less). I also pretty much always tip in cash as that way I know the staff get the tip. I know of some restaurant owners who skim from the debit and credit card tip fund and gyp the staff. The cheap jerk my daughter works for is one such low life.

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Oh come on man, making Pizza by yourself on a Saturday night is brutal. And hard work! Its not like working a 7-11 graveyard or a video store where you basically take money and smoke weed all night.

The kid is working a hard working job for crap pay, because thats the reality of being a teenager in Calgary and having a job. However, this doesn't mean you need to be arrogant and forget what it was like to be there. A small tip to that kid might mean a hell of a lot.

thats what i dont get about tipping, its so arbitrary who gets tips and who doesnt. sure your kid may be working his ass off but alot of people work hard and dont get tipped, I worked in a co-op bakery for 7 years. around the holidays we had people starting at 1230 and I often stayed 2-3 hours late so I wasnt getting out of there till 11or midnight. I never got a tip, what makes your kid so special?

I think the whole tipping thing has become screwed up, I've had some horrible service over the past few years with the labor shortage and whatnot, and yet I feel guilted into tipping at least 10%. Its no longer tip if you got good service, its tip 10% is required and if it was good then I scale up to 30.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Cawz

I saw someone try to tip a pump jockey once and the guy looked at him like he was from Mars. Someone who pumps gas deserves a tip more than many other people. They pump your stinky gas in rain or freezing cold. That more deserving than many servers (especially a bartender who just opens a bottle of beer and hands it to you).

My pet peeve is people who put a tip jar out at the liquor store. I grab a case of beer and hand him my credit card and he expects a tip for swiping my card?

I pumped gas and rarely got tips. I got a few loonies the one Christmas I was there, but that's about it. I worked there for a year and didn't make more than 20 bucks in tips.

And that tip jar at the liquor store drives me nuts too. Dude, you are just standing there. You didn't do anything.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by fotze

They have restaurants in drumheller, maybe you should stick to things you know about, like ranches, dinosaurs, hoodoos and sand.

Don't forget the oil patch. Or is that part of the whole dinosaur thingy?

Speaking of restaurants in Drum, which you did, I dare you to eat at Old Grouch's if you're ever here. It's, um, memorable. The food is good, but it's the ambience that makes it special. You'll see what I mean if you ever dine there.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by V

I can't believe the sense of entitlement people in the service industry have.

And that's what it boils down to for me - I couldn't agree more.

Don't get me wrong - I tip in the range that seems to be the generally accepted norm here, that being approx. 15% +/- depending on the service. But to have someone expect a healthy tip as a matter of course, regardless of the level of service provided is just plain ludicrous. Why is it my responsibility to subsidize a minimum-wage paying job? Your level of pay is between you and your employer.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

And that tip jar at the liquor store drives me nuts too. Dude, you are just standing there. You didn't do anything.

True enough, but some of the girls at my old store managed to make $20+ a night on weekends