We never talk about the heat

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Lithium

MAX TEMP : 29.1 °C MAX TEMP. DATE Jun.9 2008 MIN TEMP : 5.4 °C MIN TEMP. DATE Jun.1 2008
Halifax, NS.
June 1, 2008 to July 15, 2008.
Oops!

And if you read my post you would see that I don't really care what the website says, because the channel itself during the day with the live reporting temperature has had far higher temperatures than that. You see we check it quite often so we don't dress our kids to bake or freeze when we go out to the park etc. I quite honestly don't much care if anonymous joe in front of computer believes me or not, but that is what the channel itself has said (not to mention the local meterologist in his forecasts I listen to every morning).

Btw depending on what part of the city you are in you get the temperature from a different source. Some get the Shearwater temp and some get the International airport temp. There is often a number of degrees different. The temperature can vary widely across the metro area just as the precipitation can. This is of course due to a rather large body of water called the Atlantic ocean that even being a few miles inland can change things significantly. For example as I looked up right now the Halifax Airport is 17 deg and Shearwater Airport is 19 deg. It stands to reason that say downtown might have a different temperature yet and somewhere over by Kearney Lake will have a different temp. So the official search you made pulls up the Shearwater jetty as all the searches seem to...not the Halifax airport or other areas of the city that may in fact and very likely be hotter. Like say were my car and other people's cars drive around and our houses may be. The thermometer on my car seems to work as everyday as I drive into work downtown the local meteorologist says "and downtown right now it's X deg and my car seems to agree". That temp of course does not necessarily agree with the weather channel given it's from a different location.

The website may be the official source you used but keep in mind the official Halifax source for that website search is in an area that experiences significantly different weather than other areas of the metro area. In fact, all areas of the metro area can experience widely different weather experiences. This is especially true with precipitation and type of precipitation. Where I live we get copious amounts of snow dumped on us every winter whereas downtown a mere 15 km away doesn't experience nearly as much (rule of thumb the past 4 years has been we get 2-2.5 times the amount of snow).

You may also want to see the days at that 30 deg mark from this tracking site (environment canada). And couple that with the humidity that is tracked at the same time. Mean humidities for the day at about 80% or so with that 30 deg weather. heck feel free to click on last years data and see the days over 30 deg as well seeing as it was a general statement about those type of temperatures beign reached in the area every year.

http://halifax.weatherstats.ca/2months

The point still very much stands. Similar temps are seen in the Halifax area but with typically higher humidities making things worse. For example you can notice the humidex for today which is quite a mild day on the thermometer is about 30 deg. Humidex being a measure of what it "feels" like. So take a 30ish deg day on the thermometer with 80% humidity and use your imagination.

[Lithium]

So statistics lie is what you're saying?

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

What heat? Went to the Vipers game last night and froze.

We don't get more than 5 hot days here in Calgary each year, enjoy it.

What do you define as "hot?" My count puts the number of days over 26 degrees at 16 so far this year. (Somebody else was slamming me earlier about having A/C.)

As for the cost effectiveness, I've only had one Enmax bill with the central A/C, and it went down over the previous month with the window A/C. So its not like central A/C costs a lot; once you get past the up front installation. And how many people do you know spend $4-5000 on something they will only use 10-20 days per year? Like a trailer, boat, ATV, etc.

[bradster57]

Originally Posted by ken0042

What do you define as "hot?" My count puts the number of days over 26 degrees at 16 so far this year. (Somebody else was slamming me earlier about having A/C.)

As for the cost effectiveness, I've only had one Enmax bill with the central A/C, and it went down over the previous month with the window A/C. So its not like central A/C costs a lot; once you get past the up front installation. And how many people do you know spend $4-5000 on something they will only use 10-20 days per year? Like a trailer, boat, ATV, etc.

AC really depends on what you live in. Being on the top floor of an apartment, I barely need to use the heat in the middle of winter so in the summer if it is above about 22 outside the apartment can hit about 27 or 28. I've definitely gotten my moneys worth out of the AC.

[The Ditch]

I don't care what anyone says my portable AC is amazing, works great and I would not be able to sleep without for a number of days this summer.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Lithium

So statistics lie is what you're saying?

I have heard that 68.1% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Lithium

So statistics lie is what you're saying?

It is August 20th and your "statistics" only go to July 15th.

[Lithium]

Originally Posted by 4X4

It is August 20th and your "statistics" only go to July 15th.

The statement I was replying to said "Early June to mid-July" scroll up, you'll see.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Lithium

The statement I was replying to said "Early June to mid-July" scroll up, you'll see.

I enjoy warm temperatures.

[Lithium]

Originally Posted by peter12

Stop being an idiot. Statistics are an average.

MAX TEMP : 29.1 °C MAX TEMP. DATE Jun.9 2008 MIN TEMP : 5.4 °C MIN TEMP. DATE Jun.1 2008 PRECIP ACCUMULATION 274.4 mm
I don't see average in there do you?
Glad to see the 12 in your name reflects your age.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by peter12

Stop being an idiot. Statistics are an average.

sta·tis·tics [stuh-tis-tiks] -noun

Defined as: An average


Who knew?

[Lithium]

Originally Posted by Gozer

sta·tis·tics [stuh-tis-tiks] -noun

Defined as: An average


Who knew?

sta·tis·tic Audio Help /stəˈtɪstɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[stuh-tis-tik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun Statistics. a numerical fact or datum


You can use statistics to prove anything, Gozer. 14% of all people know that.

[MissTeeks]

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent, 14% of people know that.

NM, too slow!

[Lithium]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent, 14% of people know that.

NM, too slow!

I think you got the exact wording correct.
Glad to know it was indeed 14% he said lol

[Old Yeller]

I hate it when conversations about the weather end in a heated debate about statistics.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

I don't care what anyone says my portable AC is amazing, works great and I would not be able to sleep without for a number of days this summer.

I agree. Our portable AC has been a life saver for sure. Just wish it wasn't so loud though.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Lithium

The statement I was replying to said "Early June to mid-July" scroll up, you'll see.

I see that. You're right.

Just keep in mind that you're arguing with someone who is living there and that temperatures are recorded at airports (at least most of the time) and not in the middle of the city where people are actually inhabiting. It gets a fair bit warmer where there are engines running and buildings blocking wind from removing the hot air as opposed to the generally open and flat areas that airports tend to be.

I listen to QR77 pretty much all day and I have a thermometer in my truck. The temperatures announced on QR all day long are always higher than the ones that are announced as official on the evening news. The evening news takes the official recording at the airport but QR takes theirs in the downtown. My job keeps me around the core all day, so the ones I hear on QR are generally more accurate than the ones I get on the news at night.
Sometimes the difference is significant. 5, 6, 7 degrees warmer in the city than at the airport.

This used to happen when I lived in Rome. On every corner there's a farmacia (pharmacy) and they all have a neon sign outside their shop with a tempertature gauge on it. It'd regularly show high 30s, but the newspaper the next day would peg the official high in the low 30s, or even in the high 20s. I can tell you will complete certainty that being at ground level in the middle of town with hundreds of thousands of cars and mopeds buzzing around, that the temperatures in the farmacia signs were correct. High 30s. I don't care what the newspapers say.