The New iMac...Damn you look sexy

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I've been thinking about getting an iMac. I have a Dell XPS right now, and it was doing really great. But over the past year it seems to be getting bogged down (as have all the computers I've owned) and the nuking and defragmenting doesn't seem to help. Plus it isn't my computer (the families) so I will need my own soon anyways.

There are a couple things I like about the Mac. More stable than a PC, for the specs it seems like a better value than a PC (this one), the new one looks great, no junk software included. Plus on the surface it is more simple than a PC. The only downside I see is the ability to run games. I haven't been playing much in the way of computer games recently and since it is possible to run windows on the mac I can still run all my games (or use my xbox). Plus I just want to try something different. My other choice is to build my own PC, but I have a feeling I would end up spending much more than this Mac will cost.

Just so you realize, you are linking to the US site. The CDN store is $100 more (which is finally a reasonable difference), unless you get an education discount.

[Juventus3]

Originally Posted by kermitology

That was in response to someone saying that Jobs considers Apple a software company more than a hardware company.

But the fact remains.. The current Mac ad campaign is going after Microsoft's OS', and is doing so by saying "look at our eye-candy OS that doesn't do all that bad, nasty stuff that those evil doers at Microsoft do, but you have to buy our hardware in order to get that."

I've got an XPS1210 that runs beautifully, and is just over a year old now.

For me to switch to Vista: $299.99 - $499.99 (probably $299.99)
For me to use ubuntu: Free
For me to switch to OS X: $1,614.00 (at minimum, not including taxes, and this system doesn't match my current)

Per ubuntu:
In my latest ubuntu update I found that my nVidia drivers finally got fixed! If I was using those drivers then my computer would lock up if I tried suspend or hibernate. But it's so worth it for Beryl!

I wish I could get Office 2007 on ubuntu, after that I wouldn't really need anything from Windows at home.

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You just compared the price of getting a new OS to the price of getting a new computer...

Seems a bit flawed, no?

[Juventus3]

Originally Posted by Juventus3

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You just compared the price of getting a new OS to the price of getting a new computer...

Seems a bit flawed, no?

And to say it doesn't match your current system isn't a pure numbers game. Windows PC's use hardware different than Macs. I can promise you 2 computers with the same hardware will load OS X a heck of a lot faster than Vista.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Juventus3

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You just compared the price of getting a new OS to the price of getting a new computer...

Seems a bit flawed, no?

Not when, because of Apple's policies, he would need to buy a new computer to use OSX.

That was his point.

[Juventus3]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Not when, because of Apple's policies, he would need to buy a new computer to use OSX.

That was his point.

True, but it's still like saying that buying a new car is more expensive than doing repairs to your current vehicle...and justifying not getting a new car that way. Eventually you buy a new computer/car....

[TheDragon]

Originally Posted by Burninator

*Snip* My other choice is to build my own PC, but I have a feeling I would end up spending much more than this Mac will cost.

Building a PC yourself is ridiculously cheap. Check out sites like Newegg.com (which the exchange rate as good as it is right now, you're actually saving money buying from American sites) or look at Memory Xpress's website and you can probably put a top end computer together for ~$800 - $900 bucks. The most expensive part will be the OS, but if you're lucky - you might find an unused copy of XP out there for a reasonable price. Unless you fancy yourself into getting Vista.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by BananaPancakes

Yeah, no problem. Apple seems to have a lot of phone numbers lying around their site so make sure you call the right one. 1-800-263-3394 (from here http://www.apple.com/support/contact..._contacts.html)

In exact words, I just told them that my "magsafe melted". They redirected me to someone in the safety department, answered some questions about my safety, then he arranged to ship me a new one.

I hear that sometimes they'll ask you to take it to the closest Apple Store. Just tell them that there's no Apple Store near you and that should be all it takes.

There was a class action lawsuit launched in the US today about the Mag safe adapters. They will listen to you. They have also been quietly redesigned as well.

Call them up me dennis.

I have been unpluging my macbook from the wall when I'm out. Better safe than sorry. I unplug all wall chargers though for what it's worth.

[chris lindberg]

Will Apple still be in business in another 5-10 years?

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by chris lindberg

Will Apple still be in business in another 5-10 years?

1 word.

Ipod

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by chris lindberg

Will Apple still be in business in another 5-10 years?

they've already been around 30 including a period where things didn't look so good, i think 5-10 when they're gaining momentum should be pretty easy...

[me_dennis]

Originally Posted by Barnes

There was a class action lawsuit launched in the US today about the Mag safe adapters. They will listen to you. They have also been quietly redesigned as well.

Call them up me dennis.

I have been unpluging my macbook from the wall when I'm out. Better safe than sorry. I unplug all wall chargers though for what it's worth.

thanks everyone i called them yesterday and my replacement charger is on the way..
i think it was a matter of time til someone launched a lawsuit.. there are lots of people complaining on the user review on apple.ca

[me_dennis]

just for those who are interested:
http://www.appledefects.com/?cat=33

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Just so you realize, you are linking to the US site. The CDN store is $100 more (which is finally a reasonable difference), unless you get an education discount.

Hmm...I must have posted the wrong link, but yeah I was hopefully going to use an education discount. Which is $100 less and a free iPod.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by TheDragon

Building a PC yourself is ridiculously cheap. Check out sites like Newegg.com (which the exchange rate as good as it is right now, you're actually saving money buying from American sites) or look at Memory Xpress's website and you can probably put a top end computer together for ~$800 - $900 bucks. The most expensive part will be the OS, but if you're lucky - you might find an unused copy of XP out there for a reasonable price. Unless you fancy yourself into getting Vista.

Really? I didn't think it would be that cheap. I though building a top end computer on my own would be around the $1500-$2000 plus a monitor. I most likely wouldn't go Vista either.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Juventus3

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You just compared the price of getting a new OS to the price of getting a new computer...

Seems a bit flawed, no?

My point was explained above.

In terms of hardware, my current laptop has higher end elements than anything in the MacBook I looked at.

It's the OS and the associated software that Mac attacks Windows on, so why can't I use it? My current computer could more than easily run OS X, but I can't just go out and get OS X. I have to go out and get a new laptop.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Burninator

There are a couple things I like about the Mac. More stable than a PC ...

The thing to remember is that Windows is actually a very stable OS, it's the third party software tools that often crash or hang your computer, not Windows.

I suspect as Mac's become more popular and more people start writing third party software for it, you'll see more problems with the OS.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by llama64

I've had luck introducing some people to a properly setup version of Ubuntu as well. Only catch is if they absolutely need Microsoft Office.

But for internet/email and that sort of thing, nothing beats a cheap PC with Ubuntu on it.

How is open office when compared to Office? Is it compatible with Office 07 yet?

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by kermitology

The thing to remember is that Windows is actually a very stable OS, it's the third party software tools that often crash or hang your computer, not Windows.

I suspect as Mac's become more popular and more people start writing third party software for it, you'll see more problems with the OS.

So in building my own computer and installing the regular store bought Windows I would, in theory, avoid the third party programs (like Dell installs) and have a smooth running PC?

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Burninator

So in building my own computer and installing the regular store bought Windows I would, in theory, avoid the third party programs (like Dell installs) and have a smooth running PC?

You could probably get your current XPS, format it, fresh install and keep the Dell crap off of it and it would run like a dream.

I recently re-formatted to get my dual boot setup properly and I haven't been installing everything under the sun on it and it's been really nice.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Sowa

How is open office when compared to Office? Is it compatible with Office 07 yet?

It does a decent job comparing to Office 2000 maybe, but Office 2007 is lights out the best.