07-28-2007, 10:21 PM
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#82
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by socalwingfan
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Somewhat related: Further to a story where Nike is suspending his contract and not selling Vick related stuff, and Reebok is not selling Vick jerseys, I found it in poor taste to see no less then 5 Vick jerseys being worn today at the Stamps game.
That said, the "trash" quotient, at least on the east (sunny) side, was as high as I've ever seen it at McMahon, save the Esk and Rider games.
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07-30-2007, 08:14 AM
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#83
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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the money that these guys were making was chump change to vick, he must just love seeing dogs kill eachother.
#83 in the indictment is really something. so humane...
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07-31-2007, 09:16 PM
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#84
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7078268?MSNHPHMA
Rawlings has also dropped him, Upper Deck isn't going to be putting his card in their October release....The court of public opinion has found him guilty. Good, I hope the Feds do too and he spends every last dollar he has to lose the case and still end up in jail.
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08-01-2007, 02:47 PM
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#86
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Originally Posted by habernac
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Well I think he would be better off to have committed the same offence Kobe Bryant did and face a similar set of charges as opposed to being accused of heading a dog fighting ring by the feds. But to say he would be better off being a rapist was indeed poorly thought out.
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08-01-2007, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Well I think he would be better off to have committed the same offence Kobe Bryant did and face a similar set of charges as opposed to being accused of heading a dog fighting ring by the feds. But to say he would be better off being a rapist was indeed poorly thought out.
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Poorly thought out? Maybe. But he would not be as unpopular for being a rapist as he is for dog fighting. Mike Tyson still had a boxing career after getting out of jail for rape. Many people feel that Vick's NFL career is over for being involved in dog fighting.
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08-01-2007, 05:51 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Yup. In terms of the NFL and public opinion, this reporter was dead on. But honest opinions and poor wording are very dangerous.
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08-02-2007, 08:06 AM
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#89
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Originally Posted by Snakeeye
Yup. In terms of the NFL and public opinion, this reporter was dead on. But honest opinions and poor wording are very dangerous.
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So dangerous that the reporter has apologized and been canned from appearing on that particular show, although he remains with the Post-Gazette newspaper.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291796,00.html
He's absolutely correct in making the observation that an NFL player accused of rape would face less public condemnation than Vick has for dog fighting charges . . . . . . but it's still a heinous crime and one that indicates a deeply disturbed mind, something he failed to appreciate in his comments.
As others have said though . . . . . bad choice of words.
Interestingly, however, many other sports broadcast personalities have made similar comparisons in recent weeks, including Jim Rome and Michael Richards.
Cowperson
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08-02-2007, 08:30 AM
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#90
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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I was watching Off The Record last night. I don't remember the guys name, but he kept defending Vick saying "look where he grew up, it's accepted there...." etc. The rest of the panel were piling on this guy, justifiably so.
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08-03-2007, 07:48 AM
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An e-mail going around dog circles from a USA senator:
"I am pleased to let you know that I am an original cosponsor of new legislation intended to curtail the inhumane practice of dogfighting. Like so many Americans, I have been sickened to hear recent news about this practice.
Senator John Kerry has introduced legislation to amend the Animal Welfare Act, making four upgrades to the existing federal dogfighting laws. It removes an existing requirement that prosecutors and agents prove that a dog crossed state lines to fight. It also makes it a federal offense to be a spectator at a dogfight.
Senator Kerry’s legislation also makes dog fighting less lucrative by making it a crime to buy, sell, transport, train, or possess fighting dogs. And finally, it enhances penalties for dogfighting to a five year prison sentence from the current three-year penalty. Importantly, this legislation also does not override any state or local law so that local jurisdictions can impose even tougher laws.
This federal ban on dogfighting is long overdue. There is no redeeming value in watching animals tear each other apart. In fact, it is a blight on our society. I am proud to support this legislation and hope to see it become law in the near future.
Sincerely,
Barbara Boxer
United States Senator"
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08-03-2007, 03:43 PM
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Her last name is Boxer? Oh the irony is delicious!
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08-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Snakeeye
Courtesy Rock103.com |
Jeez, when I first looked at that picture, I though it was another of Cow's great dog pics.
But they're the wrong breed.
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08-06-2007, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etick...e=vicksatlanta
Decent article on ESPN as to why some people do see this as a race issue. Does sort of remind me of the South Park episode with Michael Jackson but I do understand where the writer is coming from.
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She sits down and tries to explain why so many black people in Atlanta see racism behind the treatment of Vick. It has very little to do with Vick and everything to do with antennae sensitive — maybe even understandably oversensitive — to injustice. It's based on years of bad experiences with the legal system and with federal agencies such as the FBI.
"They have created all sorts of lies and fabricated all sorts of imaginary stories on the leadership of the civil rights movement," she says. "And they even bugged my bedroom. In this house. "
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08-08-2007, 09:06 AM
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#96
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Originally Posted by rubecube
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It would be ironic if the prosecution asked to apply for a change of venue with the rationale they couldn't get a fair trial for Vick in Atlanta.
Cowperson
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08-08-2007, 10:51 AM
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#97
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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He should be suspended. But its a slippery slope if they suspend him without pay if there is no conviction. Being accused is different than being convicted. He definately wont play until the trial is over.
Not really a bright move holding the events at your home, not smart, not smart at all. If anything, buy a house for one of your underlings and hold it there with him taking the fall.
What are the counts/max penalty he is facing here - it cant be that much can it?
MYK
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08-08-2007, 11:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary AB
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Originally Posted by rubecube
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I think that any prejudice that might be directed at Vick would not be because he's black but rather because he's a star pro-athlete and this story also involves yet another special interest namely PETA. Star players, especially those who finger the home crowd after a poor performance will always get that guilty until proven innocent reputation in people's minds. Also, look at his brother, not exactly a model citizen. Although after years of mistreatment I can understand the black community having a hard time believing anything from the police. But still this isn't a black or white issue.
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08-08-2007, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
What are the counts/max penalty he is facing here - it cant be that much can it?
MYK
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Several years in prison . . . . . and that's not nearly enough. 
Cowperson
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08-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Cowboy89
I think that any prejudice that might be directed at Vick would not be because he's black but rather because he's a star pro-athlete and this story also involves yet another special interest namely PETA. Star players, especially those who finger the home crowd after a poor performance will always get that guilty until proven innocent reputation in people's minds. Also, look at his brother, not exactly a model citizen. Although after years of mistreatment I can understand the black community having a hard time believing anything from the police. But still this isn't a black or white issue.
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I completely agree with you, but you can understand why many blacks in the South do not trust law enforcement officials on this.
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