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Sylvanfan · 11-20-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by flambers

As for a trade with Wells, I believe there is allot more than a couple of teams that would be interested. As for the Green example that is the type of return the Jays can expect if they wait till the deadline of his final season IMO. I believe if a trade happened it would be similiar to the Shefield trade (i.e. some Pitching Blue Chippers and Roster player).

However it will be really interesting to see how this plays out.

Well the Green trade did happen one full season before Green became a free agent. It was pretty well known that Green wanted to go to the West coast where he was from. I also recall that he wanted to somewhere that the Jewish community was pretty prominent to or something like that as well. So that really limited Ash's trade options. He chose to trade him for right now help and got burned badly taking an obvious downgrade in Mondesi who still made a lot of money. If you can move Wells for some great prospects and than use the salary money saved to get your right now help, that probably is the better way to go. But I get the feeling that a lot of teams would like Wells, but theres only about 8 who can afford his potential salary demands, and than theres the possibility that he wants to only play in Texas or something like that. The teams who know they can get him will be well aware that they don't have to offer anything good in terms of right now help to the Jays to get Wells.

flames_1987 · 11-20-2006, 02:45 PM

The more I've had to rest on this move the more I like it. JD Drew just got 15 million a year, Soriano got about a billion dollar 8 year contract, and Nomar got 9. If thats the market right now, I don't see how 9 million for someone who was a potential MVP candidate this season is that bad at all.

The Jays still need more pitching, everybody knows that, however it's not like JP passed up strong arm after strong arm in the FA market to go get Thomas. There really are no standouts at all in terms of FA Pitchers this year, and the price tag on most of them is uber high because everyone is looking for pitching.

Thomas was the one that contacted the Jays, saying he wanted to play in Toronto. Thats defintley a big positive for the orginization to have someone of Frank's skill, seek out your team. There's a risk of course in bringing in a 38 year old, just like there was in bringing in BJ & AJ last year.

moon · 11-24-2006, 12:32 PM

I am surprised so many people like th is signing for the Jays.

Thomas is old. He did have a great year last year but think it wasn't nearly as good as many made it out to be and certainly not MVP worthy like the media made it out to be.

I think he would be effective on a play-off calibre team, but for a team like the Jays I would think the money could be better spent on younger guys that could help in the future when the Jays could luck into the play-offs.

KootenayFlamesFan · 11-24-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Thomas is old. He did have a great year last year but think it wasn't nearly as good as many made it out to be and certainly not MVP worthy like the media made it out to be.

I don't recall hearing one person saying he was an MVP candidate. Where did you hear that?

moon · 11-24-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I don't recall hearing one person saying he was an MVP candidate. Where did you hear that?

Not that he should have won but that he was a top five guy from many people. Mainly on ESPN radio and I think from articles on that site as well.

socalwingfan · 11-24-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I don't recall hearing one person saying he was an MVP candidate. Where did you hear that?

Thomas was 4th in MVP voting after Ortiz

KootenayFlamesFan · 11-24-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by socalwingfan

Thomas was 4th in MVP voting after Ortiz

Yeah, I knew he got some votes, I just never heard anyone say he should be the MVP. I was always hearing Morneau, Ortiz, and mainly Jeter.

Iggy Snipe · 11-28-2006, 03:34 PM

Thomas will be a great DH for the Jays. Last season, the Jays really didn't have a solid DH. Now the guys that belongin the field will play. Thomas knows his role and will be fine. I don't think he is worth the money is getting though, but that's the price you pay for a big name player.

Too bad Frank Catalanoto is gone. He was an awesome ball player. So consistant, great #2 hitter.