I saw Brokeback Mountain...& I'm still heterosexual!

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Zargz

There is nothing wrong with feeling UNCOMFORTABLE around homosexuals, as it is NOT normal ( if your a catholic) , hence the phrase HOMO-PHOBIC.

All a matter of opinion.

It's one thing to be uncomfortable around someone, I have yet to meet someone who is totally comfortable around everyone no matter what, it's another thing if you let that lack of comfort affect the way you treat people. It's ok to feel a certain way, I say it's ok to even believe that being gay is unnatural or wrong--everyone has a right to their beliefs. I know my best friend disagrees with my lifestyle and actually finds it sorta gross, so does his wife, but I was still his best man at his wedding. He has never treated me with anything less than the utmost respect because he can separate what I am from who I am and what I do.

If you look at someone as being gay or black or asian or challenged before you look at who they are, then yes, being unconfortable or homophobic or whatever starts becoming intolerance.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Zargz

There is nothing wrong with feeling UNCOMFORTABLE around homosexuals, as it is NOT normal ( if your a catholic) , hence the phrase HOMO-PHOBIC.

All a matter of opinion.

The Right Remedy!!!

[Zargz]

I AM A HOMOPHOBE DEAL WITH IT.

I have NO HOMOPHOBIC friends, and when i see guys or girls on TV making out I get SICK to the stomach instantly and get very angry.

I BELIEVE this to be NORMAL.

Im sure others feel the same.

GG

I dont believe people are "born" homosexual, I believe that homosexuals are unconformists, much like the people who put earing in there body parts or get millions of tattos or die there hair unnatural colors.

This topic angers me greatly.

To say homosexuality is normal is beyond my comprehension.

Whenever I think about homosexuality, I always think about one co-workers thoughts,

Could you imagine? Gays marrying? gays being able to adopt kids? How would you as a CHILD feel having two daddys or two mommys? And just think what would happen if any of your classmates would find out? the kid would be TORTURED day in and day out much like a morbidly obese person would be day after day. He would NOT lead a good life, and I believe would one day hate everything and everyone around themselves. THis is how a murderer, rapist, serial killers, are born.

This seems a bit extreme I know, but put yourself in this position.

Id like to think that people in todays age still think that marriage is virtuous and not sinful...

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I AM A HOMOPHOBE DEAL WITH IT.

I have NO HOMOPHOBIC friends, and when i see guys or girls on TV making out I get SICK to the stomach instantly and get very angry.

I BELIEVE this to be NORMAL.

Im sure others feel the same.

GG

So you get very angry and get sick to your stomach?

Sounds like your the one that needs to find a better way to deal with it.

[calf]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So you get very angry and get sick to your stomach?

Sounds like your the one that needs to find a better way to deal with it.

well said!

[Zargz]

I have a way! I stay clear of homoesexuals HA

[Calgary Flames]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I have a way! I stay clear of homoesexuals HA

You need some help. Seriously.

[oddsrule]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I AM A HOMOPHOBE DEAL WITH IT.

I have NO HOMOPHOBIC friends, and when i see guys or girls on TV making out I get SICK to the stomach instantly and get very angry.

I BELIEVE this to be NORMAL.

Im sure others feel the same.

I dont believe people are "born" homosexual, I believe that homosexuals are unconformists, much like the people who put earing in there body parts or get millions of tattos or die there hair unnatural colors.

This topic angers me greatly.

To say homosexuality is normal is beyond my comprehension.

.

Id like to think that people in todays age still think that marriage is virtuous and not sinful...

Wow, I fell asleep on the couch for a bit, last I remember it was 2006. Anyone know what year it is now, and where the time machine is, I'd like to go back to the future.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I BELIEVE this to be NORMAL.

Im sure others feel the same.

It's not normal. I'm sure others feel the same, but they aren't normal either.

If you often run across guys or gals making out on television then I gotta ask what channels you are watching. Seems to me that if someone comes across that kind of programming with any frequency then maybe they are looking for it.

[MRCboicgy]

oooh boy

Anyway, my bf and I have discussed marriage and, like any relationship, if it lasts we plan on formalizing our relationship and adopting a child(down the road of course as we both are in college)--actually 2 a girl and a boy--why? well if we can do it financially and still give the required time to them, we know we could provide a safe home with 2 loving parents. But I guess some people think it's still better to be in poverty or in a broken home or in one that's not safe or where no love exists as long as it's a straight one. *shrugs* Like i said, if we do it'll be because we've committed ourself 100% to it and we can provide the most successful environment possible.

But I can see that making someone sick.

[Zargz]

Where is the sanity?

[Zargz]

Have you ever thought that maybe your the one NOT normal? haha, im sure back in the day people of the generation didnt have it all wrong? being a homophobe as I see it, is not a form of racism.

To some people this may not make sense, but you will meet people who share my point of view, your live in alberta, deal with it.

If you can freely accept gays, go live in san francisco or france or something, they like yourselves, are "normal".

I am done with this topic, I agree to disagree with most of the posters.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Zargz

If you can freely accept gays, go live in san francisco or france or something, they like yourselves, are "normal".

I am done with this topic, I agree to disagree with most of the posters.

That's funny -- most of the posters are Albertans. Maybe you should be the one thinking about moving.

[MRCboicgy]

Might I suggest the Ozarks?

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Zargz

Where is the sanity?

Were you looking in the mirror when you posted this? That might have been appropriate.

I have some friends who're homosexuals, and guess what? They're just like everyone else (excepting that one thing)! Shocking, I know. They're not deviants, they're no less of a person than you, and they're not out to pervert the world.

I'm not sure exactly what you're worried about.

Were you beaten up badly by someone you thought was a 'fag' when you were younger?

It's interesting to me that this attitude still exists. My take on the whole thing is, if they're not impacting my life in any way (which they're not), then WHY should I care?

I'd bet you were raised in a VERY religious home...if that's the case, I feel sorry for you.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I have a way! I stay clear of homoesexuals HA

Yet you felt the need to comment on the thread and get into a discussion?

Not really following your plan are you?

[MickMcGeough]

Originally Posted by Zargz

I dont believe people are "born" homosexual, I believe that homosexuals are unconformists, much like the people who put earing in there body parts or get millions of tattos or die there hair unnatural colors.

I'm sure you've already heard and completely ignored the "homosexuality in the wild" argument, so I'll skip that one. But let me get this straight... you think that homosexuals are all angry nonconformists trying to **** off society? Nonconformists want everyone to know they're a nonconformist, they advertise it, but I would guess that almost every homosexual has had to hide it from friends or family at one point. That just doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Zargz

THis is how a murderer, rapist, serial killers, are born.

Right, because if nothing else, Tom Jones, ABBA, and Will & Grace reruns are a recipe for hate...

Bottom line is you're a bigot, not necessarily because you're a homophobe but because you're a homophobe without even a thought as to why you're a homophobe.

And I genuinely feel for you and the people around you if the fear of a generation of serial killers humming "Sex Bomb" is the best reason you can come up with for it.

[Daradon]

A couple thoughts on the issue:

I do think that some of the posters here are correct. There is almost a 'pressure' to see this movie that I don't get. Just like on the flip side there was a pressure to see The Passion of the Christ when it came out. Interestingly enough, it's probably very different people suggesting these movies should be viewed. So 'the pressure' probably comes from both sides.

There are valid reasons why someone wouldn't want to see this movie other then them being homophobic, several of these have been stated already. People shouldn't be jumping to conclusions. Doing this is sort of a reverse intolerance and isn't any good either.

I myself have never really had any problems with gay lifestyles. I do hang out with bi people of both sexes regularly, and know a few outright gay people of either gender.

I've got no problem with gay people or issues, though I will admit, sometimes the more 'flamboyant' get on my nerves and I either find someone else to talk to, or change the channel. I don't believe this to be intolerant, I'm sure there are many people who find me irritating or annoying for some reason. I don't believe they should have to talk to me or even like me. I know by knowing several different people and orientations that being gay doesn't necesarily mean your a 'Queen' or 'Diva'. It's this over the top personality that gets to me on occasion, but again, it's gets to me whether you're gay or straight. Female drama queens, and male jock posers are not people I like to hang around with either.

I love dramas and do enjoy movies about personal struggle and coming to terms etc. etc. etc.

Yet I wasn't knocking down the doors to see this movie. I don't know if I could tell you why or not. I haven't seen any sweeping dramas lately so that might be why. (Haven't seen Crash yet, though I did watch Capote on DVD, found it to be kinda boring actually)

For the most part I wasn't interested in seeing another love story, didn't matter if it was gay or straight. Another was, we just heard so much about it, you kinda felt you had seen it already. Sometimes when a movie is overhyped, it really turns me off. Not to mention you get too much of an idea of what the movie is about and that doesn't make it any exciting to watch either. I like to be surprised, I like to have to think. Right or wrong, hearing so much about the movie, made me feel there would be less of a surprise watching it.

During the time it was out, I was dating two girls, both of them bi-sexual and they both had very different takes on the movie. One really wanted to go see it, almost felt like it was her duty to go out and support it. The other, really DIDN'T want to see it and expressed an attitude some of you on here have jumped on others as being disgust or intolerance.

However given her orientation, her outlook and views, and her actions in the community and the company she keeps, that would obviously not be true.

So why the big reaction? Probably the same as mine. Filmed has been hyped to death, and way too many people saying, 'you should see this film, you should see this film,' in a way that makes it sound less like a friendly recommendation and more like required viewing. Like some of the comments on this thread.

Based on some of the actual reviews and comments of the movie on here, I think I would like to rent it now. I love movies with surprise, hard, interesting endings and it sounds like it's got some serious emotions at the end.

But to say someone has to see it or they might be a closet gay is reverse intolerance.

[Daradon]

More thoughts: (last post getting to long)

Was going to comment on your link Cheese (even though I'm sure you put it up more as tongue in cheek) but found, even in being proper and scientific, I was probably using to many words and details that may not be appropriate to the site.

So I'll just sum up, using more vague terms.

1. Not all homosexuals engage in the big 'A'
2. Many straight couples do as well
3. Even lesbian couples have been known to pleasure each other in this region.

Consensus: People have been using that area for a lot more than it's 'intended' purpose for a very long time. And it's not just gay males. Equating the big 'A' with gayness and or evilness is pretty silly.

Lastly:

Yes that Coffee-mate commercial with Choinard and those two guys DRIVES ME UP A WALL!!! It's coffee creamer gentlemen!!! Rein it in a little. Holy smokes!

I will NEVER try that stuff thanks to that commercial. And I only mean because it's annoying, just like many other commercial I see out there with non-gay spokespeople.

[Hakan]

Have you ever thought that maybe your the one NOT normal? haha, im sure back in the day people of the generation didnt have it all wrong? being a homophobe as I see it, is not a form of racism.

It's a question of how far back in the day you want to go. I just finished reading a book on the Mughal Empire in India during the 16th C, the most powerful empire on the Earth at that time, and bi-sexuality was very common among the ruling elite and the emperors. Their religion was Islam and no one seemed to mind going back to the harem and having kinky threesomes and bjs from dudes.

So people from back in the day may look at us and think our repressed sexualities are quite weird and different.

Bottom line is that you view the world from one perspective and others view from another. Don't like the queer lifestyle, that's great, but don't go off about how other people should not like it as well and how it's 'wrong.'