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Old 03-05-2026, 11:47 AM   #81
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Buffalo is still a dump. One of the worst cities I've been in, if not the worst.
St. Louis isn’t exactly an urban paradise.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:49 AM   #83
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Buffalo already has an excellent top four.
All lefties, though.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:51 AM   #84
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I just hate the Blues and everything they do nowadays.


Steal our playoff spot last year because of an insane fluke run, now trying to out tank us. Just F off will ya!

I guess why they call it the Blues
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:54 AM   #86
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San Jose should get parayko tbh
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:59 AM   #87
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San Jose should get off their wallet
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:01 PM   #88
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Problem is St Louis likely asking for Dickinson if they thought they were getting Mrtka and 1st from Buffalo.

The better of the two 1st round picks (Sharks or Oilers) is the start but I don't think San Jose will want to part with any of their top prospects.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:02 PM   #89
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Maybe, that trade cant happen though so its irrelevant. Buffalo almost certainly has to take a worse offer or keep him.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:05 PM   #90
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If I'm looking for a defenseman, I'm looking at the probable price difference between Parayko and Whitecloud, and I'm picking Whitecloud all day.

Parayko (32) $6.5M for 4 more years after this one. Costs 2 ultra-premium assets

Whitecloud (29) $2.75M for one more year. Probably costs 1 premium asset (late 1st)

Easiest decision ever.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:08 PM   #91
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Problem is St Louis likely asking for Dickinson if they thought they were getting Mrtka and 1st from Buffalo.

The better of the two 1st round picks (Sharks or Oilers) is the start but I don't think San Jose will want to part with any of their top prospects.
Cagnoni and Havelid along with the better of the two firsts would probably be about the same value that Buffalo offered. Better pick, and splitting the difference in prospects between to very good ones instead of one better one.

Anaheim and LA can't touch the back end prospect depth of SJ. Could probably swap in Wallenius or Wang dependent on preference.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:10 PM   #92
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Cagnoni and Havelid along with the better of the two firsts would probably be about the same value that Buffalo offered. Better pick, and splitting the difference in prospects between to very good ones instead of one better one.

Anaheim and LA can't touch the back end prospect depth of SJ. Could probably swap in Wallenius or Wang dependent on preference.
I dont know this kinda stuck out
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:10 PM   #93
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Fair enough. I've never been to Buffalo but have been to St. Louis. St. Louis was very grimy in large parts. However, it also had a friendly vibe in a lot of places, with a Southern type charm. There seemed to be a focus on community and culture there, even though it wasn't the most affluent city. St. Louis is also a much bigger city and somewhat rapidly growing, as opposed to Buffalo standoffish stagnation.

I guess Buffalo is more like Detroit and St. Louis more like Chicago?
St Louis has some really bad neighborhood

But of course when you are rich, you never go there
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St Louis has some really bad neighborhood

But of course when you are rich, you never go there
Most US cities are like this
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Detroit is a wasteland. Edmonton is a waste of land.
Relative to the bombed out hellhole I remember it being in the 90s, Detroit is going through a bit of a renaissance these days. Definitely still on the grittier side, but I actually quite liked it the last time I was there. Like most American cities, there are are some terrible parts, and some parts that would make Mount Royal look quaint. Detroit has plenty of fancy suburbs (Gross Pointe etc) where I'm sure your average millionaire hockey player could be quite happy.
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Most US cities are like this
Yes, but there is bad and there is really bad

St loius is on the extreme side
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San Jose should get off their wallet
So should Detroit.
Stevie Y's patience will prevent him from building a team that actually matters.
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Buffalo is still a dump. One of the worst cities I've been in, if not the worst.
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St. Louis isn’t exactly an urban paradise.
Every major American city is pretty gross. But they all also have super-awesome areas where rich people live, work and play. That's the whole deal with the U.S.

Remember when fans here were wondering why any NHLer would want to play in Vegas? Turned out the area NHLers live and raise families in is awesome. Same with St Louis -guys who play there love it. Many stay after they retire (Pronger, MacInnis, Tkachuk, Hull, Brodeur).

I'm sure Buffalo offers great communities for rich people too. The downsides to the Sabres are: weather, ownership, losing. Even if they've overcome that last handicap, the other two remain.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:16 PM   #99
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St. Louis isn’t exactly an urban paradise.
Yeah - I mean Buffalo isn't great - but he's not being traded from Miami or LA.
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Old 03-05-2026, 12:17 PM   #100
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St Louis has some really bad neighborhood

But of course when you are rich, you never go there
I definitely felt a sense of poverty, that you do not see in a Canadian city, while visiting St. Louis. I guess like a lot of "post" segregation US cities, you can shield yourself from that by living in a rich area.

I definitely really like the social, music and sports scenes in St. Louis. I'm presuming Buffalo doesn't have those. I'll probably never visit Buffalo to be fair.
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