10 dead, including suspect, in mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge, B.C.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I don't have my restricted license so not sure about that. Can you even buy restricted firearms anymore?

It's very model specific. Almost all handguns, no except in very limited circumstances. Many models of rifles are almost impossible to get too.

There are lots of grandfathered guns out there though. The shooter in this situation could easily have access to handguns that were acquired prior to October 2022. Gun control is the type of law that really takes decades to be effective, unless you collect active guns already in the public.

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

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Red meat for the bigots no matter where it goes from here.

Ban more guns please. Hunting and sport are not more important than being able to watch your kids grow up.

This is a tragedy 100%, losing a child is probably the most devastating thing any parent will ever go through. Thoughts and prayers are with the town/community. This is not the thread to get into it, but "ban more guns please" shows your ignorance to current laws and offers no solution for prevention.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Sliver

From the RCMP:


That's for all non-restricted firearms (e.g. shotguns, long rifles, semi-autos, etc.).

It's not a challenge at all. You can store them together. You can even store your ammunition not locked away anywhere...so long as it is separate from your locked-up firearms.

This is all non-restricted.

I don't have my restricted license so not sure about that. Can you even buy restricted firearms anymore?

Right, I got restricted and unrestricted backward.

Restricted = handguns
Unrestricted = rifles/shotguns

I shouldn't have said keeping the ammo and firearm separate was a challenge (duh), more so that having them in locked containers/rooms that are truly impenetrable isn't realistic if someone really really wants to get in. Hence the danger of having them in the first place.

Handguns are a pain in the ass in general to have, keep compliant and acquire in general. I went into both courses not knowing much at all about the rules and regulations, and came out of thinking that handguns are off the table if I ever wanted to get a firearm. Much more of a pain in the ass than an unrestricted firearm.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Right, I got restricted and unrestricted backward.

Restricted = handguns
Unrestricted = rifles/shotguns

I shouldn't have said keeping the ammo and firearm separate was a challenge (duh), more so that having them in locked containers/rooms that are truly impenetrable isn't realistic if someone really really wants to get in. Hence the danger of having them in the first place.

Handguns are a pain in the ass in general to have, keep compliant and acquire in general. I went into both courses not knowing much at all about the rules and regulations, and came out of thinking that handguns are off the table if I ever wanted to get a firearm. Much more of a pain in the ass than an unrestricted firearm.

Hey, just so we don't derail this important and sensitive thread, I'm going to copy your post into the firearms thread and reply to this there.

Apologies to all for the derail...not something we set out to do.

Edit to add link to the first page of the firearms thread to make it especially easy for us to leave this conversation out of this thread: https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=120127

[chedder]

Perpetrater has been identified by RCMP. Have to assume by naming that they're an adult. CTV story mentions problems in the killer's family.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/art...-updates-here/


Edit to take out gun storage comment will move to other thread.

[Huntingwhale]

Forgot about that thread. Yes, moving over there.

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by chedder

Perpetrater has been identified by RCMP. Have to assume by naming that they're an adult. CTV story mentions problems in the killer's family.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/art...-updates-here/


Edit to take out gun storage comment will move to other thread.

Not sure if those protection laws still come into play if the person is dead.

[activeStick]

I just saw a photo on the news of a very young looking girl while they were talking about the shooting. Looked like a baby! So tragic.

[Engine09]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

Thoughts and prayers are with the town/community.

Which amount to absolutely nothing. Worse than useless actually, they give someone the impression that they are actually doing something so they disengage.

I thought most people had moved on from that meaningless sentiment.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Engine09

Which amount to absolutely nothing. Worse than useless actually, they give someone the impression that they are actually doing something so they disengage.

I thought most people had moved on from that meaningless sentiment.

I think that you're conflating the American school shooting problem with Canada. It has been a decade since there was a school shooting in Canada. The last being 2016 in La loche.

[Firebot]

The shooter has been confirmed and identified.

[trackercowe]

So if the shooter was 18, that must mean she was a former student? I can't see how someone 18 years old would still have been in grade nine.

[SutterBrother]

Jesse Strang has been identified as the shooter in the Tumbler Ridge shooting, CTV News has confirmed.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police say they first received a report of an active shooter at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School at approximately 1:20 p.m. local time Tuesday.

“As part of the initial response to the active shooting, police entered the school to locate the threat,” the B.C. RCMP wrote in a statement Tuesday evening. “During the search, officers located multiple victims. An individual believed to be the shooter was also found deceased with what appears to be a self‑inflicted injury.”

CTV Link

More details emerging from reputable news sources.

[Engine09]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I think that you're conflating the American school shooting problem with Canada. It has been a decade since there was a school shooting in Canada. The last being 2016 in La loche.

Yeah, you're right, these things don't happen that often in Canada.

Alright, let's keep praying about it.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Engine09

Which amount to absolutely nothing. Worse than useless actually, they give someone the impression that they are actually doing something so they disengage.

I thought most people had moved on from that meaningless sentiment.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...m-maya-edmonds

Tuesday “started as any other” for Tumbler Ridge, B.C, mom Cia Edmonds, but within hours she was sitting in the Vancouver children’s hospital with her 12-year-old daughter, Maya, “fighting for her life” due to gunshot injuries to her head and neck.

The little girl was one of many people injured in a mass shooting that left six people dead at a Tumbler Ridge high school on Tuesday, as well as the shooter. Two more people were found dead at a separate location. Another person died en route to the hospital. Two people were airlifted to hospital with serious or life-threatening injuries and another 25 were assessed at a local medical centre for non-life-threatening injuries.

Maya Edmonds “was a lucky one, I suppose,” her mother posted on Facebook.

“Condolences to the other families during this tragedy. This doesn’t even feel real. I never thought I would be asking for prayers. But please, pray for my baby.”

You know, if someone take a bit of comfort in asking for thoughts and prayers for their 12 year old daughter fighting for her life, it’s not too much to set aside your personal beliefs and let them have that.

[DoubleF]

EDIT: Moving post to other thread.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

EDIT: Moving post to other thread.

The firearms discussion has been moved to a different thread.

[Firebot]

For conspiracy folks, this is the weirdest discovered thing that simply makes no sense and unexplainable.

Google Trends "Tumbler Ridge" -> 90 day trend -> Israel

I thought it was a hoax but it's a real thing.

Even more conspiracy lunacy.

Google Trends "Jesse Strang" -> 90 day trend -> Israel

WTF? Jan 3 and Dec 17 in particular

Premeditation or online threat? This makes no sense.


Also from the CTV article

“People will know the individual, will know the family or the other people that were killed,” Lewis said, in reference to the small size of the community. “They may well appreciate that there has been problems in that family, maybe threats in the past, and of course, the police will know the individuals involved too, and know what has occurred in the past and what they might be linked to."

Clear major warning signs left unchecked until it was too late and a tragedy has occured. The initial claim by the RCMP that it won't be known the motive is clearly horse#### if stating what the individuals involved might be linked to. Much the same way the Portapique shooting happened, there's almost always some history or signs.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Firebot

For conspiracy folks, this is the weirdest discovered thing that simply makes no sense and unexplainable.

Google Trends "Tumbler Ridge" -> 90 day trend -> Israel

I thought it was a hoax but it's a real thing.

Even more conspiracy lunacy.

Google Trends "Jesse Strang" -> 90 day trend -> Israel

WTF? Jan 3 and Dec 17 in particular

Premeditation or online threat? This makes no sense.

It makes sense if you know Google Trends works. For a topic that gets virtually no search traffic, having it spike from 0 to 100 in one day doesn't mean there are a bunch of searches. It can be a single search. And usually, it's not even a person doing the search, but more likely bot activity. There are spike for Jessica Strang and for John Strang and other similar names in December/January as well. Likely just bots.

Also from the CTV article

“People will know the individual, will know the family or the other people that were killed,” Lewis said, in reference to the small size of the community. “They may well appreciate that there has been problems in that family, maybe threats in the past, and of course, the police will know the individuals involved too, and know what has occurred in the past and what they might be linked to."

Clear major warning signs left unchecked until it was too late and a tragedy has occured. The initial claim by the RCMP that it won't be known the motive is clearly horse#### if stating what the individuals involved might be linked to. Much the same way the Portapique shooting happened, there's almost always some history or signs.

Warning signs can't really be acted on if we want to maintain civil liberties. To me that reads like the person threatened people, but if they didn't actually commit a crime that would normally be prosecuted, what can you really do? Presumably the murderer didn't have legal access to the gun, so then it's up to whomever owns the gun to make sure an unstable person doesn't get their hands on it.

[Redlan]

I lived in Tumbler Ridge for over 16 years and graduated high school in this very school. We visit my in-laws a couple of times a year in TR so this hits far too close to home and is very difficult to comprehend and is consuming a lot of my thoughts. My thoughts and prayers to all those impacted, those who lost loved ones and those children and teachers who have to endure the pain of overcoming fear, pain and loss in the weeks, months and years ahead. 242 4ever