Practice Notes: Oct 29th

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

But so was Backlund, Weegar and Andersson.

The veterans clearly get treated differently..

Why does this surprise anyone? The guys that have put in a combined 2200 games get a longer leash than the ones with 80? Like yeah, this isn't shocking. People in your office, work site, Etc etc that have years of service are trusted more than someone whose showed up over the summer. That's how #### operates.

Obviously you don't want to be beholden to seniority, I'll say that before someone replies with a dumb post, but going with trusted vets is not a bad thing. You guys act like Coronato has mostly played with himself in the press box instead of games this season.

Take a step back from the ledge.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Andersson had a great game. In fact, he's been good all season.

It's been explained many times how veterans need to play through tough times, whereas young players benefit from time in the stands watching the game. Veterans know what they did wrong. Rookies don't.

Its funny because the Barnburner crew said the exact opposite.
Said the worst players are our veterans, naming both Weegar and Andersson as being extremely awful to start the year.

Rhett was very critical of both guys as being veteran leaders and playing the wrong way so many times this season.
Jamie said Andersson's basically driving up the QE2 throwing out 100 dollar bills because his play isn't helping him sign a new "phat" contract.

Goes to show you how everyone has their own opinion, yet we gang up and try to make each other look wrong all the time.

[gvitaly]

It is probably a coincidence but Parekh has 1 more game before his ELC is no longer slide eligible.

So if they decide he isn't ready, and send him to junior, then his current contract only starts next year. It would be similar to how Bouchard was assigned back to the London Knights.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Its funny because the Barnburner crew said the exact opposite.
Said the worst players are our veterans, naming both Weegar and Andersson as being extremely awful to start the year.

Rhett was very critical of both guys as being veteran leaders and playing the wrong way so many times this season.
Jamie said Andersson's basically driving up the QE2 throwing out 100 dollar bills because his play isn't helping him sign a new "phat" contract.

Goes to show you how everyone has their own opinion, yet we gang up and try to make each other look wrong all the time.

I'm not sure those guys even watch the games...actually I am and they don't watch them all. Especially Rhett.

Weegar has been very bad...not Andersson though. And even if he had been you are going to healthy scratch him and then with a straight face demand a high trade value claiming that you might keep him. I promise you Ras is getting a big PHAT contract.

Good god, I like the banter sometimes but those guys are click bait central

[Royle9]

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Its funny because the Barnburner crew said the exact opposite.
Said the worst players are our veterans, naming both Weegar and Andersson as being extremely awful to start the year.

Rhett was very critical of both guys as being veteran leaders and playing the wrong way so many times this season.

Goes to show you how everyone has their own opinion, yet we gang up and try to make eachother look wrong all the time.

Weegar has struggled, but I don't know that it's because he "played the wrong way". He's just had some mechanical issues and a few brain farts.

Andersson is leading the skimpy offence from the D, is a +1 on a bad team (only he and Bahl are plus Dmen and Weegar is -10).

Frankly, Rhett has become a bit of a hot take afficionado, and he seems to change his views constantly.

[ST20]

There is not enough attention being given to Huska trying Sharangovich at centre. It did not work in the past. We are trying to see what we have in Zary and Frost to address the team's most pressing position at centre and he's decided to make them both wingers - positions where we have a massive log jam.

Parekh sitting is defendable... Coronato is a little iffy... but Sharangovich at centre is atrocious.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

I hear that Kevin Lowe knows a thing or two as well.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

Neither of them watched the game...I mean Jamie was doing color on another game at the time. They do provide some good insight but they are out to lunch if they think Ras isn't getting a phat contract.

Like I said they are right about Weegar...Ras made one bad clear. This idea that anyone who played in the league is an expert has been proven wrong a million times. How many players have made BAD executives.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

They have lots of hockey knowledge and are not biased like many people on this forum. Their job is to look at things objectively, they don't work for the Flames directly.

Many on this forum just have a blind spot and don't like to criticize the players or the team. I get it, I'm the opposite and can be overly negative.

But the Barn Burner guys are usually spot on with their analysis.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

They have lots of hockey knowledge and are not biased like many people on this forum. Their job is to look at things objectively, they don't work for the Flames directly.

Many on this forum just have a blind spot and don't like to criticize the players or the team. I get it, I'm the opposite and can be overly negative.

But the Barn Burner guys are usually spot on with their analysis.

What makes them immune to biases and blind spots?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

Rhett also said a few days ago that he has concerns about the physical toll on Parekh in the NHL as he seems to take a lot of punishment. The speed of the decision making and physicalness at the NHL level is massive over junior. It's not an insignificant risk. And if there is another thing Rhett knows, it's about getting physically punished in the NHL. He definitely wasn't afraid to take a hit.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Weegar has struggled, but I don't know that it's because he "played the wrong way". He's just had some mechanical issues and a few brain farts.

Andersson is leading the skimpy offence from the D, is a +1 on a bad team (only he and Bahl are plus Dmen and Weegar is -10).

Frankly, Rhett has become a bit of a hot take afficionado, and he seems to change his views constantly.

I'm getting a little worried that Weegar has lost a step. He's not quick enough to be pinching as much as he does and is getting caught up ice a lot.

[SuperMatt18]

Andersson has been fine, and underlying stats support that too.

Weegar has been bad to start this season - no real way around it. This is evolving hockeys goals above replacement.



Coronato has also been bad and deserved his scratch, but they have to figure out how to get him going and it's not going to happen in the press box.

[FBI]

This is a bit tongue in cheek but after a 2-8 start has there been any worse at their job than Huska? Maybe he needs a few games off to watch from above?? He could learn a lot.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think both Rhett and McLellan both know a thing or two about hockey more than the rest of us, the guys played in the league and know the room.

I'd trust their evaluations over 99% of the people on this forum personally.

I'm sure they do know a lot but plenty of HOF athletes have totally bombed at coaching and managing teams in all professional sports that proves that being gifted at a sport does not make one a great analyst or judge of talent.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

But so was Backlund, Weegar and Andersson.

The veterans clearly get treated differently.

Welcome to professional sports. Veteran players - on every team in the NHL, NFL, etc - get a lot more runway from coaches than players with less than two full seasons under their belts. This isn’t a Flames or a Huska thing.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

They have lots of hockey knowledge and are not biased like many people on this forum. Their job is to look at things objectively, they don't work for the Flames directly.

Many on this forum just have a blind spot and don't like to criticize the players or the team. I get it, I'm the opposite and can be overly negative.

But the Barn Burner guys are usually spot on with their analysis.

I also find that people who say the same things I already believe are "spot on".

It's a weird coincidence that keeps happening.

Strangely though those "experts" that disagree with my strongly held views I find to be wildly off the mark and generally not well informed.

[Enoch Root]

The Barnburner guys only get quoted when they are making controversial opinions - having reasonable, measured viewpoints will generate zero viewership. Are they knowledgeable? Of course. But citing them as authorities is a big stretch when it is literally their job to generate discussion through controversy and bold opinions.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I also find that people who say the same things I already believe are "spot on".

It's a weird coincidence that keeps happening.

Strangely though those "experts" that disagree with my strongly held views I find to be wildly off the mark and generally not well informed.

Not really, no. It's the same way I would trust analysis from Royle or Scorpion on this site, over a lot of others. Because one has been proven to have inside sources with the team, and one covers the Flames daily and does analysis.

The Barn Burner guys have been covering hockey for a long time. They know what they are talking about. Rhett also has played and has experience there.