2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yes after 3 wins and a lot of good energy Conroy is going to discuss a fire sale. That should go over well in the locker room.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On Insider Trading:
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/~3011132

LeBrun says Conroy is a little confused as to why people think there will be a fire sale again this season.
Core veterans like Kadri, Weegar, and Coleman have contracts past this season.
Sees the veterans as wanting to be part of this roster transition.
Conroy doesn't want to tear it down to the studs, and sees those veterans as part of building the right culture in Calgary.

No real reason to trade Coleman, Weegar or Kadri.

Now Kuzmenko and eventually Andersson, now that's different.

[CFO]

One of the only players the Flames may look to trade at the deadline is vladar.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They need a goalie. They have the offence and speed throughout the line up. They have the stars.

The Avs problem is depth. With Landeskog and Nichushkin out, they’re a team with three superstars, a couple decent complementary pieces, and a whole lot of meh. The Stars, and even the Oilers, have a lot more depth.

[CliffFletcher]

I’m glad Conroy acknowledged the cloud over the team last season. The open secret that many veterans were going to be sold off clearly affected the team’s morale and motivation.

That’s why there was reason to believe this season’s team wasn’t going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people assumed. There’s still a lot of skill in the lineup, and a lot of players - young and old- with something to prove. Cohesion and motivation can take a team a long way in this league.

[Goriders]

I don’t think the Flames are moving anyone unless they demand a trade. I can’t see that happening if they keep winning. If you’re a vet looking to get paid why would you leave a team that has $20 million in cap space?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Avs problem is depth. With Landeskog and Nichushkin out, they’re a team with three superstars, a couple decent complementary pieces, and a whole lot of meh. The Stars, and even the Oilers, have a lot more depth.

The Oilers??

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I don’t think the Flames are moving anyone unless they demand a trade. I can’t see that happening if they keep winning. If you’re a vet looking to get paid why would you leave a team that has $20 million in cap space?

Kuzmenko? Sign or trade?

Mantha? Sign or trade?

I think the Flames will move them unless they decide to sign them.

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Kuzmenko? Sign or trade?

Mantha? Sign or trade?

I think the Flames will move them unless they decide to sign them.

Trade trade trade. The Flames have a full pipeline of winger prospects that will be cracking the lineup in the next few years. I like Kuzmenko and Mantha but we don't need them blocking the kids.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Kuzmenko? Sign or trade?

Mantha? Sign or trade?

I think the Flames will move them unless they decide to sign them.

Betting Mantha gets signed if Huberdeau keeps producing.

Also could see Kuzmenko if the pp keeps producing.

All depends on how the season goes. Anything can happen. Nothing would surprise me.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Toast_Man

Trade trade trade. The Flames have a full pipeline of winger prospects that will be cracking the lineup in the next few years. I like Kuzmenko and Mantha but we don't need them blocking the kids.

If your best prospects can’t outplay those two with time then it wasn’t going to work out anyway.

[Enoch Root]

It comes down to cost vs return.

For Kuzmenko for example, if you can sign him for 3 X $5M, vs being able to get a 3rd in trade, you sign him. If the cost is 6 X $7M, vs getting a 2nd and a 4th, you trade him.

Obviously it will end up somewhere in between, and you make the choice you prefer

[Number 39]

Resigning the vets for me comes down to term. Personally, I’d prefer they trade Kuzmenko and Mantha closer to the deadline. Having said that, if they were open to a short term contract that wouldn’t bother me too much. I’d be dead set against long term contracts for any of our vets right now. It’s term that usually kills you, not the cap hit.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think Conroy is dead set against long term contracts for vets as well. He stuck to what he said 1–2-year contracts. Even with Bean he went 2 years. Lomberg got 2 years.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think Conroy is dead set against long term contracts for vets as well. He stuck to what he said 1–2-year contracts. Even with Bean he went 2 years. Lomberg got 2 years.

The likelihood that Mantha given his track record gets a 5 or 6 yr contract seems low. If he gets Huberdeau going I would have no problem going 3-4 years with him though. If Kuzmenko puts up another season around a PPG somebody will give him a longer term deal I suspect. He looks more and more like a guy who flourished once he got away from a coach who just does not have a lot of time for skilled guys.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The likelihood that Mantha given his track record gets a 5 or 6 yr contract seems low. If he gets Huberdeau going I would have no problem going 3-4 years with him though. If Kuzmenko puts up another season around a PPG somebody will give him a longer term deal I suspect. He looks more and more like a guy who flourished once he got away from a coach who just does not have a lot of time for skilled guys.

Yup and it's probably why Vancouver looked like complete #### to finish the season and in the playoffs.

The 15 shots on net were not a byproduct of losing Demko, it's how he wants his team to play. Low event hockey and take the skill out of the game for both teams.

On the flipside it was refreshing to hear Huska talk about how we need all 4 lines because they are asking the players to play a difficult brand of hockey, high pace and keep skating. Seems like he is adjusting to his roster as well.

Reminiscent of Tkachuk talking about how the Panthers bought into playing a difficult brand of hockey, but it was what they needed to do to win.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The likelihood that Mantha given his track record gets a 5 or 6 yr contract seems low. If he gets Huberdeau going I would have no problem going 3-4 years with him though. If Kuzmenko puts up another season around a PPG somebody will give him a longer term deal I suspect. He looks more and more like a guy who flourished once he got away from a coach who just does not have a lot of time for skilled guys.

Kuz is really hard to gauge, because even when he's producing he's far from a complete player. And he needs PP time and offensive starts to be effective. I think he's a tougher fit for a lot of teams.

I say that as a fan, who is hoping he stays here. He's really entertaining and cracks me up.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Kuz is really hard to gauge, because even when he's producing he's far from a complete player. And he needs PP time and offensive starts to be effective. I think he's a tougher fit for a lot of teams.

I say that as a fan, who is hoping he stays here. He's really entertaining and cracks me up.

HIs skill is on display on the PP, and open ice situations like 3-3 OT. 5 on 5 he doesn't seem to operate as well.

[Vinny01]

I would like this team to stay the course regardless of how they are playing at the deadline. If this hot start turns into being in the wildcard race at the deadline it should still all be about the new building. Don’t trade picks, and trade any pending UFA that has value who you will not be re-signing.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would like this team to stay the course regardless of how they are playing at the deadline. If this hot start turns into being in the wildcard race at the deadline it should still all be about the new building. Don’t trade picks, and trade any pending UFA that has value who you will not be re-signing.

I don't necessarily think that's the course that Conroy thinks they're on though.

Every move last year was forced on him because the veteran didn't want to resign with Calgary.

His message has been pretty clear that they aren't technically rebuilding and they want to remain competitive on the fly. While I thought it was just PR for the signed vets and for more finnicky fans, I'm not sure anymore... and this start, if it continues, will just reinforce a win now mentality.