10-03-2024, 12:15 PM
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#81
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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It allows them to accrue cap space but really it's more that Lehner didn't report so they have to do this by the way LTIR rules are written
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10-03-2024, 12:16 PM
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#82
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I can't believe the league would let Vegas get away with sketchy cap shenanigans!
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10-03-2024, 12:31 PM
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#83
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Nm
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10-03-2024, 02:30 PM
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#84
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I'm good with this as long as Vancouver gets a recapture penalty and the Devils get a 1st rd pick back or something.
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10-03-2024, 02:44 PM
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#85
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Groot
So the real benefit to Vegas is opening up a bit of cap now to accrue which will add more at the deadline versus having LTIR space to be over the cap now.
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The other benefit to Vegas is they have shed another $5M contract without penalty or having to use the same tools everyone else has to use (buy out, etc).
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10-03-2024, 03:20 PM
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#86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Once again the nhl proves that they don’t take the cap or contracts seriously at all.
Is there any other sport where the CBA and contract rules mean so little? Over the last decade there’s been a stupid number of sketchy practices when it comes to contracts. It’s so bush league.
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The thing is all the circumvention hijinks don’t seem to bother NHL owners and GMs. When the issue gets brought up it’s by fans and the media. It’s not an issue with the board of governors.
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10-03-2024, 03:24 PM
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#87
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Vegas paid good Expansion money for these exemptions.
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10-03-2024, 03:27 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The thing is all the circumvention hijinks don’t seem to bother NHL owners and GMs. When the issue gets brought up it’s by fans and the media. It’s not an issue with the board of governors.
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And the NHLPA certainly doesn’t seem to mind.
You’d just think at some point any of these groups would start to care about legitimacy but I guess not. Even the cfl wouldn’t stoop to these kinds of shenanigans and they get crapped on all the time for being Mickey Mouse.
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10-03-2024, 03:29 PM
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First Line Centre
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I am all for it if Vegas uses this extra cap space to strengthen their squad so that they can take out the Oilers in the playoffs.
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10-03-2024, 03:33 PM
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#90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lazypucker
I am all for it if Vegas uses this extra cap space to strengthen their squad so that they can take out the Oilers in the playoffs.
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While increasing the # of potential buyers for Flames assets at the TDL.
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10-03-2024, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Nothing to see here
This is not the first example of a player getting money not to play and it not counting against the cap
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10-03-2024, 06:19 PM
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#92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The thing is all the circumvention hijinks don’t seem to bother NHL owners and GMs. When the issue gets brought up it’s by fans and the media. It’s not an issue with the board of governors.
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Ya Evander Kane has made 7 million every year he has been with the Oilers but has a lower cap hit than that by almost 2 million. Nobody cares if the cap is properly adhered to.
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10-03-2024, 06:23 PM
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#93
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Ya Evander Kane has made 7 million every year he has been with the Oilers but has a lower cap hit than that by almost 2 million. Nobody cares if the cap is properly adhered to.
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He generated it but I dont know that he got to keep it.
The vig is rough and Vinny...he can get a little rough too.
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10-03-2024, 07:52 PM
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#95
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Originally Posted by Sec214
Huberdoh your next….
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You beat me to it
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10-03-2024, 09:41 PM
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#96
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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Vegas is annoying.
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10-04-2024, 02:21 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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As long as they suck next season. That's all that matters.
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10-04-2024, 05:14 AM
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#98
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I’m late to this punch but it’s ridiculous Vegas gets every break to their advantage. Lehner should be paid if warranted but it should count toward the cap. Just a spinoff way of getting a special treatment.
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10-04-2024, 07:15 AM
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#99
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Nothing is stopping the rest of the league from doing this stuff. It’s not as though the league cracks down on other cap circumvention ploys. Vegas just does it more often because they’re always in ‘anything to win this season’ mode.
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10-04-2024, 08:21 AM
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#100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
I think this is a cap circumvention story. Vegas checking to see if NHL would let them get rid of contract in LTIR to create cap space at trade deadline. And then would probably settle with lenner for 100% of salary. Never let a good opportunity go to waste.
The is a near 0% chance lehner would lose his LTIR money by failing to show up for a physical. The NHLPA would fight that to the end and probably win.
Even the NHL isn't stupid enough for this. It's a nice try by the knights tho
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This was pretty much bang on except for the last paragraph. It turns out the NHL is stupid enough for this.
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