Yeah, it’s similar to the Boltmann pick- if you want to take a chance on a longshot, that’s great, but do it in the later rounds. I’m pretty sure Boltmann would have been available later, and the same could be said about Hoskin. Now, of course we don’t know how a prospect will develop, but here’s a few names we missed out on in order to draft Hoskin:
-C Heikki Ruohonen
-D Luke Osburn
-LW Kevin He
-C Tomas Mrsic
-LW Blake Montgomery
-C Raoul Boilard
-D Aron Kiviharju
-C Riley Patterson
-RW Hagen Burrows
-C Simon Zether
-D Colton Roberts
-LW Clarke Caswell
-D Nate Misskey
-C Marcus Loponen
-LW Noah Powell
-RW Justin Poirier
-RW Anthony Romani
-LW Charlie Forslund
-C Petr Sikora
-C Kaden Pitre
-D Tory Pitner
-C Kieron Walton
-C Lucas Van Vliet
-D Jakub Fibigr
-C Christian Humphreys
Of course I’m not a pro scout, but I would’ve been excited to get any of the above players over Hoskin. I really hope I’m wrong and Hoskin makes it to the NHL.
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Hoskin seemed like a weird pick to me. Yes, there’s been numerous players that have played in the OJHL to go on and have successful careers, but the majority of them haven’t been drafted out of that league. They played there when they were 15 and then went to the O. And got drafted out of the O. Hoskin was picked out of that league as a 19/20 year old. And now he’s going to Niagara Univeristy?
Strange pick, but like you said Sandman, I’m not a scout, so we’ll see
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I would be pleasently surprised if Hoskin ever receives an ELC from the Flames.
The Flames still made 7 great picks that draft.
Yeah, it's early but I think this was easily our best draft in the last 30 years at least. Henry Mews in the third round? Luke Misa in the fifth? You gotta be kidding me!
It's very easy to forgive the Hoskin pick if he doesn't turn out, what with the haul we got.
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Yeah, it's early but I think this was easily our best draft in the last 30 years at least. Henry Mews in the third round? Luke Misa in the fifth? You gotta be kidding me!
It's very easy to forgive the Hoskin pick if he doesn't turn out, what with the haul we got.
If the Flames took Hoskin in the 5th and Misa in the 4th we may not be having this conversation at all!
Every year I go through the draft picks and mark down who I think the least likely future NHLers in each round were. (my accuracy rate is not great tbh)
I was confident Hoskin would be on my list for the 4th round but jesus some of the guys that went ahead of him in the 4th are just total throwaways. If Biber/Henricks/Protz/Gabe Smith get an NHL contract between them I'll be surprised. Looks like the 4th was just the round to get the guy you wanted to bet on this year and I'll give Hoskin a way better bet than some. At least he's been an impact guy somewhere at some point.
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If the Flames took Hoskin in the 5th and Misa in the 4th we may not be having this conversation at all!
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I hope now I turn out to be wrong but perfection for me would have been Poirier in the 4th, Misa in the 5th and Hoskin in the 6th.
It's possible the Flames had intel that Hoskin would last that long but it's also possible he could have been there in the 7th, the word I had on Justin Poirier was just too strong to ignore, he was ranked somewhere around 40th, one of the youngest players in the draft, all he does is score goals and is built like a tank. As it was put to me, Carolina might just have gotten a more powerful DeBrincat in the 5th round, I wouldn't be shocked if he's their best pick out of all their picks.
It did seem like a weird pick, but later round gems often are players that have a story that is off piste. Injured. Late bloomer. Grew late. Obscure country. Who knows from where we stand. This path is different enough that you never know.
But his dad drove a zamboni. Hockey is expensive....maybe the family didn't have the means to get Hoskins in with "development" coaches that feed kids to bigger programs. Who knows.
All I know is this scout, Terry Doran, has been mentioned several times by Flames management as sticking his neck WAY out for this kid. He will have spent major goodwill to go to bat for Hoskins. A scout's reputation is on the line for this.
That is worth a lot.
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Yeah, it’s similar to the Boltmann pick- if you want to take a chance on a longshot, that’s great, but do it in the later rounds. I’m pretty sure Boltmann would have been available later, and the same could be said about Hoskin. Now, of course we don’t know how a prospect will develop, but here’s a few names we missed out on in order to draft Hoskin:
-C Heikki Ruohonen
-D Luke Osburn
-LW Kevin He
-C Tomas Mrsic
-LW Blake Montgomery
-C Raoul Boilard
-D Aron Kiviharju
-C Riley Patterson
-RW Hagen Burrows
-C Simon Zether
-D Colton Roberts
-LW Clarke Caswell
-D Nate Misskey
-C Marcus Loponen
-LW Noah Powell
-RW Justin Poirier
-RW Anthony Romani
-LW Charlie Forslund
-C Petr Sikora
-C Kaden Pitre
-D Tory Pitner
-C Kieron Walton
-C Lucas Van Vliet
-D Jakub Fibigr
-C Christian Humphreys
Of course I’m not a pro scout, but I would’ve been excited to get any of the above players over Hoskin. I really hope I’m wrong and Hoskin makes it to the NHL.
Boltmann was a weird pick in the 3rd. But the 4th is a pretty good area to start taking flyers on upside guys a team’s area scout likes and has seen a lot (and the Flames seem to get a lot of good value out of the fourth round of the drafts). I think there was a comment somewhere that the Flames said they had exhausted their main ranking list around here and went to area scouts, so you either take a guy a scout has watched a lot and talked to a bunch of personnel who have coached the player or the team takes a consensus guy that they may not know a lot about.
Interestingly, the Luke Misa pick sounds like it could have been the later—that maybe the flames hadn’t spent a ton of time scouting him but then took a flyer on him because he had fallen so far. I’m parsing pretty heavily, but button in his post draft interview had specific comments about the skill or reason for taking every other player, but about Misa only said they felt like they had to take him at 150.
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Kids got everything he needs physically and skill wise to make an impact in the show, let's see if he has the will. I'm keen to watch what this kid does. His interview videos were all a nice picture of a well grounded kid so, here's hoping.
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On a side note, since we're discussing Jon Abbott today... I can't stand announcers that sound like their dog died when the other team scores. Nothing wrong with a little homerism, but be professional when the other team scores and show at least a little excitement.
This guy was brutal. Maybe he's hoping for a gig with the Oilers some day.
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Hoskin has entered the transfer portal after scoring 39 points in his freshman year at Niagara. Likely looking to join a stronger program with more development resources — Niagara has zero NHL alumni of significance.
