[Trade] Devils trade Vanecek and 7th for Kahkonen

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Calgary fans: these NJD goalies are specifically the problem, the obvious solution is to trade for a goalie.
Fitzgerald: trades for a goalie
Calgary fans: why did fitzgerald get new goalies?

Apologies, we should have made it clearer for you...

Calgary fans: these NJD goalies are specifically the problem, the obvious solution is to trade for a good goalie.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Striles me that Fitz is doing what Treliving did - looking for a goalie almost every year instead of letting his guys work it out.

Ramo to Hiller. Hiller to Elliott. Elliott to Smith. Smith to Talbot. Talbot to Markstrom. And almost every time he sent a goalie away, they rebounded to some degree.

Almost like our goalie coach had a negative influence on them…

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766221655360106979

Haha...that should shut the troll up

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766221655360106979

Come on down Jack Campbell lol

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766221655360106979

Anything other than the playoffs...

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Goalies are like Running Back in the NFL.

There are some elite ones out there, but their stats are largely a result of the team in front of them. When their backup gets a chance to play, they often look as good as the starter. Smart GMs know not to overpay for them and lock them into big contracts, since a "good" one can often be found hidden on some team's depth chart.

Obviously not the case in Calgary currently...if anything the Flames hurt his numbers

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Got to love it when a gm that attempts to call a bluff and loses rolls out his excuses to make it look like "the plan"

[Jacks]

Imagine being a Devils fan and needing to troll other teams forums to defend your GM throwing away a prime contention year. Congrats on another wasted year I guess, way to stick to your guns.

[monkeyman]

This move screams ‘desperation’ to me. What’s the old saying, the cheap comes out expensive? I think NJ will end up paying dearly for trying to cheap out on a goalie.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Haha...that should shut the troll up

Me: These are stopgaps, Tom Fitzgerald will continue to look for a long term option at the right price
You: posts tom fitzgerald saying he will continue to look for long term options
You: Ha, clearly you were wrong

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sure, come back here after the off season when Fitz ponies up Mercer. Looking forward to it.

For Swayman, sure. Mercer would be more than on the table.

You guys keep talking about fitz job in "jeopardy". It's not. what would put it in jeopardy would be trading Mercer for Markstrom

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Haha...that should shut the troll up

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Me: These are stopgaps, Tom Fitzgerald will continue to look for a long term option at the right price
You: posts tom fitzgerald saying he will continue to look for long term options
You: Ha, clearly you were wrong

An admitted troll

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yup.

Clears cap for next year and gives them a chance to see Kahkonen.

Kahkonen has been bad the last two years...but I'd say he still has more upside than Allen.

Personally I think the Devils should have just met the asking price 3 weeks ago, but this makes a lot more sense than trading a 3rd (possible 2nd) for Allen.

Baffling they didn't do this earlier, especially with two teams who have been long our of the playoffs. The price must have really come down.

When the Markstrom discussions were hot and heavy, I posted that they might look at Allen if Marky's price was too high. Hoping he found the late career form like Quick/Talbot did this year. I did not think that Kahkonen was in the picture at all.

I do wonder what it means for Schmid though, I think he needs waivers next year. Daws can go work on his game in Utica.

All in all, pretty happy with the moves today. Very similar to Calgary where they shipped out some UFAs to gain assets.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Imagine strutting around like you're a hockey genius when you were a vocal cheerleader for the failed decade of darkness "oil change" core.

Didn't get enough being dead wrong, had to come back for more!

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Baffling they didn't do this earlier, especially with two teams who have been long our of the playoffs. The price must have really come down.

When the Markstrom discussions were hot and heavy, I posted that they might look at Allen if Marky's price was too high. Hoping he found the late career form like Quick/Talbot did this year. I did not think that Kahkonen was in the picture at all.

I do wonder what it means for Schmid though, I think he needs waivers next year. Daws can go work on his game in Utica.

All in all, pretty happy with the moves today. Very similar to Calgary where they shipped out some UFAs to gain assets.

Schmid won't need waivers next year. That's why KK and Allen were acquired

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Schmid won't need waivers next year. That's why KK and Allen were acquired

Are you sure? He's an arbitration eligible RFA, this is the last year of his ELC.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Imagine being a Devils fan and needing to troll other teams forums to defend your GM throwing away a prime contention year. Congrats on another wasted year I guess, way to stick to your guns.

I'm starting to think the troll IS their GM. I can't imagine any Devils fan willing to defend Fitz after how this season played out.

[All In Good Time]

One question gibb10

Why are you?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Positive side for New Jersey:
Kahkonen is perhaps better than the stats show playing on that terrible team
Allen is an experienced backup, and NJ is short on experience
What was there (Vanecek and Schmid) was NOT working. Had to change it.


Negative side:
Not much difference really between Vanecek's history and Kahkonen's. If anything, Vanecek (one year older only) has been the more consistent goalie with more starts.



To me, this is change for the sake of change and hoping the 'mix' does better. New Jersey is bleeding away picks in an effort to find reliable goaltending. I don't think they really accomplished anything, and the tweet about them still going to be 'big game hunting' for a goalie in the off-season speaks to that.


NJ just applied a roll of duct-tape around some pipes, hoping that it allows them enough time to wash that pile of dishes they have until they can get a plumber to get in there. Seems like a waste of perfectly good duct tape to me.

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Are you sure? He's an arbitration eligible RFA, this is the last year of his ELC.

He's 2 years or 8 games away from losing eligibility. This allows them to keep him in the minors next year as an emergency injury replacement with NHL experience.