[Trade] Devils trade Toffoli (50% retained) to Jets for 2025 2nd, 2024 3rd

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by cannon7

We didn't even get a 2nd for a 34 goal Toffoli. But sure, you never know.

The Devils just got a 2nd and a 3rd for a 44 point guy. Not sure why our current 45 point guy would be worth significantly less if they wanted to trade him than a guy who is 6 years older than him.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Toffoli's pretty good defensively, no?

I mean, nothing to write home about. There were always better defensive players on the team. But playing under Sutter on multiple teams naturally keeps one at least passable on that front.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1766154035894116547

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

JC. We got a player who is on pace for 33 ooals this year. He is worth more than a 2nd. Why you want to continue to die on a hill that you don't even own, is beyond me

33 is less than 34. And 34 didn't get us a 2nd.

But your 20/20 retrospective goggles do appear to work. Now get to work on that time machine.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Man, that’s a really solid deal for the Jets. The retention was the cherry on top.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Devils just got a 2nd and a 3rd for a 44 point guy. Not sure why our current 45 point guy would be worth significantly less if they wanted to trade him than a guy who is 6 years older than him.

The Devils are not the Flames.

But we can revisit this in a year's time and take each others posts out of context.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by cannon7

33 is less than 34. And 34 didn't get us a 2nd.

But your 20/20 retrospective goggles do appear to work. Now get to work on that time machine.

We traded a 73 point guy. The Devils traded a guy on pace for 57 points and got a 2nd. Not sure why you are talking about what Toffoli got last year, the Devils traded him this year.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The Devils are not the Flames.

But we can revisit this in a year's time and take each others posts out of context.

Ah got you. The Flames are idiots. Sorry, missed that part of your post.

[Blaster86]

A very nice piece of work.

The AVS jets series is gonna be a blood bath.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

A very nice piece of work.

The AVS jets series is gonna be a blood bath.

Suspect it will be Jets-Preds in the first round. Jets have 3 games in hand on the Stars and hold the tiebreaker.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by cannon7

33 is less than 34. And 34 didn't get us a 2nd.

But your 20/20 retrospective goggles do appear to work. Now get to work on that time machine.

33 replaces 34, so it is worth a 2nd and a 3rd, presumably

plus he is younger and cheaper - the same production, younger and cheaper, is worth more

but you keep talking time machines and all, instead of accepting that you were wrong because I really think it's working for you

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

There's a subset of posters who care far more about being "right" than good things happening for the team they root for. It's odd.

That's not very charitable, Jiri.

I'm not that fixated on being right. I admit when I am wrong more than most around here. My perspective is actually that I think the Flames could or should be doing better and I am expressing disappointment when they fall short of my expectations. When the Flames are doing well or are living up to my expectations I am actually quite positive around here. I'm sure it goes unnoticed in a sea of rose colored glasses. But because the majority opinion around here appears to be that all Flames commentary should be strictly positive, I attract the ire of many when I call things the way I see them. If I think the Flames are getting short changed, I'm going to say so. Despite what some think, this is not an anti-Flames position.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Keeping him in the pressbox doesn't mean he didn't have value, it just means Jersey under-utilized him. He is clearly showing that he is worth more than a 2nd, now that he is getting opportunity

Crazy when a trade works out for both teams hey?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by cannon7

That's not very charitable, Jiri.

I'm not that fixated on being right. I admit when I am wrong more than most around here. My perspective is actually that I think the Flames could or should be doing better and I am expressing disappointment when they fall short of my expectations. When the Flames are doing well or are living up to my expectations I am actually quite positive around here. I'm sure it goes unnoticed in a sea of rose colored glasses. But because the majority opinion around here appears to be that all Flames commentary should be strictly positive, I attract the ire of many when I call things the way I see them. If I think the Flames are getting short changed, I'm going to say so. Despite what some think, this is not an anti-Flames position.

Maybe you should lower your expectations because it seems like they don't reach them 99% of the time. You would have a much more enjoyable time being a Flames fan if you didn't have such lofty expectations. You'd also be a much more enjoyable poster and not usually be the center of conflict with your hard stance.

Don't worry, be happy.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Crazy when a trade works out for both teams hey?

It's worked out great for two teams, Flames and Jets...but about those Devils...

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I mean, nothing to write home about. There were always better defensive players on the team. But playing under Sutter on multiple teams naturally keeps one at least passable on that front.

Sure but not "one-dimensional". No one that played that many years under Sutter without running away is one dimensional.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by cannon7

That's not very charitable, Jiri.

I'm not that fixated on being right. I admit when I am wrong more than most around here. My perspective is actually that I think the Flames could or should be doing better and I am expressing disappointment when they fall short of my expectations. When the Flames are doing well or are living up to my expectations I am actually quite positive around here. I'm sure it goes unnoticed in a sea of rose colored glasses. But because the majority opinion around here appears to be that all Flames commentary should be strictly positive, I attract the ire of many when I call things the way I see them. If I think the Flames are getting short changed, I'm going to say so. Despite what some think, this is not an anti-Flames position.

Honestly, how old are you?

It has nothing to do with people being homers. You change the goal posts just to fight with everyone.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It's worked out great for two teams, Flames and Jets...but about those Devils...

Care to explain?

Or are you just crapping on the Devils?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

We traded a 73 point guy. The Devils traded a guy on pace for 57 points and got a 2nd. Not sure why you are talking about what Toffoli got last year, the Devils traded him this year.

Don't forget 50% retention in this one - Calgary traded Toffoli at full rack rate.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Care to explain?

Or are you just crapping on the Devils?

The Devils didn't really do good here man, c'mon

They got 60 games of Toffoli in a non playoff year and a 2nd round pick and get to eat half of the rest of his contract for the year.

They also lost a better, younger, cheaper player in Sharangovich.

It certainly wasn't a win