Carter Hart granted indefinite leave of absence

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Publicly said he was on vacation
Victor Mete

Publicly says they didn't attend the Gala and wasn't in London
Jordan Kyrou
Kale Clague

Agent publicly says he was in his hotel room sleeping
Dante Fabbro

All came out publicly and explicitly said they are not involved and cooperating with investigators
Jonah Gadjovich
Taylor Raddysh
Tyler Steenbergen
Brett Howden
Robert Thomas
Conor Timmins
Cal Foote
Cale Makar
Colton Point

Publicly said they are cooperating with investigations but have no further comment
Dillon Dubé (Personal leave of absence Jan 21,2024)
Boris Katchouk
Maxime Comtois
Drake Batherson
Michael McLeod
Sam Steel

No public comments that I've seen
Alex Formenton
Jake Bean
Carter Hart (Personal leave of absence Jan 23,2024)

The last two groups make up 8 players. Think the accused totalled 8.

Guess we’ll see soon enough.

[Ped]

The last two groups make up 9.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

They have a few things in common, but a cup win is not one of them.

Marrying their cousins? Or lack of teeth.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Ped

The last two groups make up 9.

Sorry missed Dube.

Question. If the speculation is true can the Flames cancel Dube’s contract?

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by stang

I’d be embarrassed of you if I were a flame fan.

But you’re just a POS

Stay classy Stang. What is it with Oiler fans? Cleary the majority of them are lacking in brain cells.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Stay classy Stang. What is it with Oiler fans? Cleary the majority of them are lacking in brain cells.

Wat?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Marrying their cousins? Or lack of teeth.

Yes

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maybe the Oilers can rehabilitate them so stang can give them a standing ovation with tears in their eyes.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Sorry missed Dube.

Question. If the speculation is true can the Flames cancel Dube’s contract?

Do the flames want to release him to the Oilers at league minimum? I guess that's the real question.

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Sorry missed Dube.

Question. If the speculation is true can the Flames cancel Dube’s contract?

His contract is up at the end of June, and there's no way back at this point. I firmly believe he's played his last NHL game.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Some people take the schtick waaaaaay too far.

Yeah, perhaps.

I don't like getting too serious about sports-related things because it takes fun out of forum chatter. It should be expected that the Oilers would straddle that line and we shouldn't go full woman yelling at cat over it. Stang generally is a good dude, as are the other oiler regulars. It's not to throw them under the bus just because they happen to be fans of that team.. but damn, man. That scripted Perry presser was all kinds of wrong.

In calgary you hear Oliver discuss coming back to practice and talking about not being sure he would "be here" to see another practice and how great it is to have him back with his old teammates. Feel good story around an honest struggle over 20 months away from the game.

In edmonton on the same day you have a guy with a questionable reputation recently ejected by his team for things that can't be made public. Oilers don't check in on the details to see whether it's even a good idea to sign him, sign him anyways. In the presser they collaborate to spin this as best they can.

So their three-celled PR brain trust comes up with the brilliant idea of dressing this up as a "mental health" issue. They even have the audacity to have him rattle off a little speech about mental health. Corey talks about pride in his work done over 8 weeks. Trying to sell the public that in 8 weeks where he never officially entered the assistance program (or any word on extensive rehabilitation) he supposedly addressed alcoholism and the intimidating behaviour he was exhibiting on staff member/s in Chicago...

On the same day as Kylington hitting another milestone in an honest journey to recovery that's well documented, we have the Oilers propaganda pushers cheapening the meaning of those words, reducing it to a buzzword they've added to their arsenal to try and downplay their latest questionable move.

I don't know. Is the shtick too far, or did the Oilers go to far?

I can live with stang thinking I'm the jerk for bluntly pointing it out. But the fact remains that that looks terrible on them.

I know it would be really hard for an Oiler fan to take the L on anything when it's coming from rival fans because the natural inclination is to push back. But honestly... this isn't the standard heckling or teasing. That might be a new low for the team's media.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Yeah, perhaps.

I don't like getting too serious about sports-related things because it takes fun out of forum chatter. It should be expected that the Oilers would straddle that line and we shouldn't go full woman yelling at cat over it. Stang generally is a good dude, as are the other oiler regulars. It's not to throw them under the bus just because they happen to be fans of that team.. but damn, man. That scripted Perry presser was all kinds of wrong.

In calgary you hear Oliver discuss coming back to practice and talking about not being sure he would "be here" to see another practice and how great it is to have him back with his old teammates. Feel good story around an honest struggle over 20 months away from the game.

In edmonton on the same day you have a guy with a questionable reputation recently ejected by his team for things that can't be made public. Oilers don't check in on the details to see whether it's even a good idea to sign him, sign him anyways. In the presser they collaborate to spin this as best they can.

So their three-celled PR brain trust comes up with the brilliant idea of dressing this up as a "mental health" issue. They even have the audacity to have him rattle off a little speech about mental health. Corey talks about pride in his work done over 8 weeks. Trying to sell the public that in 8 weeks where he never officially entered the assistance program (or any word on extensive rehabilitation) he supposedly addressed alcoholism and the intimidating behaviour he was exhibiting on staff member/s in Chicago...

On the same day as Kylington hitting another milestone in an honest journey to recovery that's well documented, we have the Oilers propaganda pushers cheapening the meaning of those words, reducing it to a buzzword they've added to their arsenal to try and downplay their latest questionable move.

I don't know. Is the shtick too far, or did the Oilers go to far?

I can live with stang thinking I'm the jerk for bluntly pointing it out. But the fact remains that that looks terrible on them.

I know it would be really hard for an Oiler fan to take the L on anything when it's coming from rival fans because the natural inclination is to push back. But honestly... this isn't the standard heckling or teasing. That might be a new low for the team's media.

I have zero issue with the jokes. This one went a bit too far. What Perry did sucks and is problematic, but it's not even in the same realm as what happened to this girl.

I don't think it's upsetting because it's mocking the Oilers. I think that's mandatory. I think that it lessens what happened to the victim here.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It's easy to read between the lines of what some of the players or their lawyers stated publicly. While being vague and saying they weren't involved in wrongdoing and are cooperating isn't an admission or evidence of guilt or knowledge, saying less is something you would expect them to do if they may have been involved. For example, Gadjovich's lawyer called the incident reprehensible and was a lot stronger in his words when it came to cooperating. If a lawyer thought their client did something reprehensible, I doubt they would air that publicly. You never know though, maybe their client wasn't forthright either.

Strickland tweeted in August that there would be a total of 5 players suspended once everything is final and hinted that he knew the names, but couldn't mention them. More than 5 players gave really vague answers though.

It boggles my mind that these players wouldn't have been suspended with pay in August. Knowingly having gang rapists on your team is a bad look.

When the said player is a 4th line player on a non-playoff team and you just got $700m in public money...why you'd continue to dress such a player would be unfathomable. There's actually zero reason to do so. Very stupid behavior on the flames if they knew Dube is one of the rapists and kept him around the team and playing games.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

It boggles my mind that these players wouldn't have been suspended with pay in August. Knowingly having gang rapists on your team is a bad look.

When the said player is a 4th line player on a non-playoff team and you just got $700m in public money...why you'd continue to dress such a player would be unfathomable. There's actually zero reason to do so. Very stupid behavior on the flames if they knew Dube is one of the rapists and kept him around the team and playing games.

Maybe I missed the report but has it been confirmed that there was a gang rape?

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Maybe I missed the report but has it been confirmed that there was a gang rape?

No, it is still only an allegation at this stage. If, however, the alleged victim has invented the events she say happened it's a big commitment to the lie. I'm flabbergasted there hasn't been a resolution by now.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

It boggles my mind that these players wouldn't have been suspended with pay in August. Knowingly having gang rapists on your team is a bad look.

When the said player is a 4th line player on a non-playoff team and you just got $700m in public money...why you'd continue to dress such a player would be unfathomable. There's actually zero reason to do so. Very stupid behavior on the flames if they knew Dube is one of the rapists and kept him around the team and playing games.

Because no one is knowingly having gang rapists on their team as of yet.

[Goriders]

It will all come out in the end. But is it ever taking a long time.

[trackercowe]

It makes it really difficult to be a fan of the game with situations like these constantly happening. Hockey needs a massive culture change. Between this, Perry, Kane, and the Blackhawks situation it feels as if there is no discipline when it comes to actions such as these. The NHL wants everyone to overlook all of these issues, and continues to play favouritism to certain franchises.

I might be overreacting, but I'm starting to ask myself "Why?" I care about hockey anymore. It's like watching a Chris Benoit match, a Bill Cosby movie, or a Michael Jackson performance. How long can I separate myself from all these constant transgressions?

[Royle9]

There were screenshots of the 8 players that were at the club the night it happened all over facebook right up until a few days into the investigation. They were then removed (legal I'm sure)

I'm guessing those 8 were the ones involved, it only adds up.
I remember seeing it, sad if true.

[bluejays]

Sports are great but the people in it all over are ####bags. Don’t look at them as hero’s or role models, and don’t fawn over them when you see them on the street.
They’re great athletes and that’s it. Problem solved.