07-22-2023, 08:12 AM
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#81
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Having all your best players in their 30’s is a recipe for disaster. Was then and is now. Those old teams do not win in hockey. Tanguay - 32, Kipper - 35, Sarich - 34, Cammalleri - 30. Too old to compete.
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It worked so well last time they thought hey let's try it again, except with longer contracts this time.
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07-22-2023, 08:16 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Having all your best players in their 30’s is a recipe for disaster. Was then and is now. Those old teams do not win in hockey. Tanguay - 32, Kipper - 35, Sarich - 34, Cammalleri - 30. Too old to compete.
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I don’t disagree with that at all. But they tried that year. It was only when they failed and Iggy was up for UFA that they traded him at the deadline. And they didn’t trade the rest until later, when it was clear they couldn’t compete. Hell, they kept those guys for another season for the most part. They never embraced a tank - it happened accidentally.
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07-22-2023, 08:16 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreal
Interesting that Craig mentioned having “really good” taken right before their pick a few times in his 12 years. Looks like the Flames were very close to picking Kaprisov.
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Flames traded their 4th round pick that year for TJ Galiardi otherwise they could have taken Kaprizov in the 4th round.
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07-22-2023, 08:30 AM
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#84
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All I can get
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nevermind
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 07-22-2023 at 08:34 AM.
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07-22-2023, 08:56 AM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Conroys transparency is pretty incredible . He has been groomed , been around some of the best hockey people in the game but has remained Craig and not some watered down version of someone else.
His relationship with Jarome and Gelinas as former team mates and now executives makes him better because those 2 will help him lift the heaviest of stuff.
When he speaks of the alumni and the past experiences he's absorbed being in the right place and the right time it's amazing.
...let's be clear though he EARNED this job.
I've way more appreciation for Craig today and have always respected his heart on his sleeve approach . We could all learn something about this man's humility .
Good job Craig Conroy . Glad your our GM.
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07-22-2023, 09:22 AM
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#86
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollie619
Hartley did a great job here. Hindsight is 20|20.
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134-135-25
Hindsight says he was as mediocre as it gets.
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07-22-2023, 09:40 AM
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#87
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Franchise Player
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Warner had an interesting story about Kipper and Hartley. He said that Kipper essentially cut his career short because of Hartley. That Kipper left angry because of him. He essentially wouldn't play one more game for the guy and the team chose Hartley(similar to the Savard situation).
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07-22-2023, 09:50 AM
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#88
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#1 Goaltender
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Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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07-22-2023, 09:55 AM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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We were talking about that earlier in the thread.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
I haven't finished watching but feel Kerr missed an opportunity to go deeper with Conroy when discussing the Adam Fox draft. They talked about a player (I guess Grimaldi) that wouldn't come to CAN and Fox apparently didn't voice the same.
Dive in Kerr! That's a big issue not so much the specific but the bigger Canadian issue.
Or why did Fox change his mind (if he did) did he feel blocked?
It was put on a platter Kerr ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Kerr said it was a first rounder (actually during the Gaudreau draft, who had a similar size to Gaudreau) and I couldn't figure out who it was. Grimaldi would make sense though.
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07-22-2023, 09:59 AM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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Draisaitl?
Have to go wash my mouth out with soap.
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07-22-2023, 09:59 AM
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#91
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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For sure it was Matthew Wood.
Guy is going to be a beast.
NVM read too quickly. Like others have said maybe it's Mercer or Kucherov. IIRC flames were really high on him.
Last edited by Flames1217; 07-22-2023 at 11:26 AM.
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07-22-2023, 10:00 AM
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#92
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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Pretty sure the Flames liked Mercer before moving down in 2020. Could be that. Maybe Sillinger (rumoured to have been really interested in '21) though if that's the case, I'd honestly rather have Coronato personally and I think the Flames are very happy to have him as well.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
For sure it was Matthew Wood.
Guy is going to be a beast.
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Forgot about this. Could see it. Was really hoping for him to be there as well tbh.
Last edited by prizefighterinferno; 07-22-2023 at 10:02 AM.
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07-22-2023, 10:01 AM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Listening to the interview, Conroy references a player the Flames liked who was selected one pick ahead of their own pick early in the draft. That player has gone on to be really good. Without having looked, yet. I wonder who that was?
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I'm guessing it's either Nick Suzuki going 3 picks ahead of Valimaki, or Kempe going a couple of picks ahead of Mason McDonald.
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07-22-2023, 10:21 AM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
I'm guessing it's either Nick Suzuki going 3 picks ahead of Valimaki, or Kempe going a couple of picks ahead of Mason McDonald.
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This kind of stuff happens all the time I bet. Including this last draft. OTOH, the Flames got Tkachuk because he fell a couple spots through Vancouver being dumb.
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07-22-2023, 11:47 AM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The Flames Media Department are going to have to buy one of these comically oversized vaudevillian hooks....
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07-22-2023, 12:21 PM
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#96
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
False.
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The Flames need to be careful, if they go woke, they're certainly going to go broke. We dodged a bullet with that gay stuff
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07-22-2023, 01:08 PM
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#97
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prizefighterinferno
Pretty sure the Flames liked Mercer before moving down in 2020. Could be that. Maybe Sillinger (rumoured to have been really interested in '21) though if that's the case, I'd honestly rather have Coronato personally and I think the Flames are very happy to have him as well.
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Forgot about this. Could see it. Was really hoping for him to be there as well tbh.
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Mercer could have been who Conroy was talking about. It sounded like he was referring to a player that went one spot ahead of the Flames pick and it also sounded like it was from years prior, not this last draft.
Silinger too. I think a few draft boards had him going to Calgary and it sounded like Sam Constanteno kept saying the Flames liked him.
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07-22-2023, 01:15 PM
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#98
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
Draisaitl?
Have to go wash my mouth out with soap.
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Perhaps, but I do think the Flames wanted Bennett.
Can’t recall who exactly wrote the article but an Edmonton based writer for the Athletic wrote a piece about the Oilers taking Draisaitl over Bennett and it was a huge internal debate. One scout said after they made the pick he looked over at the Flames table and a number of Flames guys couldn’t hide their excitement. Guys were high giving one another.
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07-22-2023, 01:29 PM
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#99
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Perhaps, but I do think the Flames wanted Bennett.
Can’t recall who exactly wrote the article but an Edmonton based writer for the Athletic wrote a piece about the Oilers taking Draisaitl over Bennett and it was a huge internal debate. One scout said after they made the pick he looked over at the Flames table and a number of Flames guys couldn’t hide their excitement. Guys were high giving one another.
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Flames actively tried to move up to get Draisatl, so yeah, don't believe anything ever from an oiler fan or Edmonton based writer.
Also Conroy has spoken about just missing out on Kucherov in the past.
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07-22-2023, 01:45 PM
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#100
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I'm blown away there are actually people arguing that Hartley is a good coach!
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Because not everyone sees things black or white.
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