07-02-2023, 01:13 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by D as in David
Or buy out the second year.
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why would the flames buy out a contract they could completely bury in the minors?
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07-02-2023, 01:23 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Is this where all the unreasonable outrage is today? Other threads are quiet and calm.
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07-02-2023, 01:32 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Is this where all the unreasonable outrage is today? Other threads are quiet and calm.
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Doubt anyone can be that fussed about losing a fringe NHL player.
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07-02-2023, 01:34 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Mind boggling how some have just assumed this guy was an NHLer all along and (for some unknown reason) the Flames just held him back even when trying to improve their team. Including the new head coach who had him in the AHL.
Its just really odd.
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It's because he scored lots in the WHL. So did Ryan Duthie...
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07-02-2023, 01:34 PM
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#85
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Wish him all the best, hope he gets a legit shot with the Caps. Its too bad he left but understandable. The Flames brought this on themselves but I have no doubt Conroy has learned from the mistakes of Treliving & Sutter.
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07-02-2023, 01:36 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by colbym72
If the flames want him back they can just claim him on waivers in September
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Maybe they aren't done ruining his career yet?
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07-02-2023, 01:37 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Doubt anyone can be that fussed about losing a fringe NHL player.
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Really? There was a TON of fuss about him not getting NHL time and plenty of posters recently insisting we should give him another contract.
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07-02-2023, 01:40 PM
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#88
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
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If he becomes a productive NHLer I will be filled with absolute unfathomable rage towards this organization for a couple days.
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07-02-2023, 01:40 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I hope he does well. Seems like a good guy and I don't see why anyone wouldn't want someone to achieve their dreams.
I think he is still a real long shot to have a long and productive NHL career, but I don't see an issue with giving him a shot. He has the physique of a teenager, so it won't be easy. I know the sample size with the Flames big club was too small to make a fair judgement, but from what I saw, his speed and decision making didn't seem like enough to compensate for the lack of size. Maybe it will come with more experience though.
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07-02-2023, 01:41 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Really? There was a TON of fuss about him not getting NHL time and plenty of posters recently insisting we should give him another contract.
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I took that as more Sutter criticism and less about Phillips being a legit NHL player.
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07-02-2023, 01:44 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Seven training camps. Multiple head coaches to impress and earn a roster spot. Never showed up when it mattered. That's on the player.
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I agree. On a similar note if you know your size is holding you back eat more and get in the gym. It’s been done before.
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07-02-2023, 01:45 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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i thought we wanted to keep prospects?
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07-02-2023, 01:48 PM
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#93
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp
i thought we wanted to keep prospects?
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He chose to leave as is his right.
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07-02-2023, 01:52 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp
i thought we wanted to keep prospects?
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Maybe ultimately he wasn’t a prospect for the Flames.
Guess we’ll see how he does. I think that will end the debate.
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07-02-2023, 01:54 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Who watched him in the Wranglers postseason? Then you know he will never survive in the NHL, dude spent 3/4 of the time on his ass. We lost a minor league player, no big deal.
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07-02-2023, 02:01 PM
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#96
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Who watched him in the Wranglers postseason? Then you know he will never survive in the NHL, dude spent 3/4 of the time on his ass. We lost a minor league player, no big deal.
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Guess Zary will never make it either, by that criteria ... hoo boy did he have a brutal playoff.
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07-02-2023, 02:03 PM
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#97
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: YYZ
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What does Matty turn out to be in the NHL?
- Waivers before season finished
- One season doesn't get picked back up
- Bottom 6 - 20 Points
- Bottom 6 - 30 Points
- Bottom 6 - 40 Points
- Top 6 - 50 Points
- Top 6 - 60 Points
- Top 6 - 70+ Points
Would be a cool (bittersweet) story to see him become a 50+ point NHL player.
Bottom 6 and 40 points due to size.
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07-02-2023, 02:06 PM
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#98
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Don't judge a young players by his training camp(s). Pelletier will be an NHL player but his camps were awful. Put a lot of pressure on himself. Whereas a guy like Tanner Glass knew how to impress but couldn't maintain it
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07-02-2023, 02:07 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backstop
Bottom 6 and 40 points due to size.
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How many bottom-6 guys hit 40 points? Especially ones wit 3 career NHL games?
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07-02-2023, 02:07 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Guess Zary will never make it either, by that criteria ... hoo boy did he have a brutal playoff.
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I agree he didn't have a great playoff but Zary is solid, totally different subject than getting crushed every shift. Phillips doesn't have the thickness and build that a St Louis or a Fleury had nor does he have the magic elusiveness of a Gaudreau. Sure, he could float around and score in the AHL when games were not that important but as soon as the physicality of the playoffs start he spends more time lying on the ice than skating on it. I like Phillips, he seems like a really nice guy but he won't survive NHL hockey.
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