[Rumour] LeBrun: All signs point to Hanifin not wanting to extend with Flames

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Sutter wasn't the only part of the culture issue in the room. You can't fire the millionaire divas, but you can make them someone else's problem. I don't know if Hanafin is one of them, but the Flames should be ready to move on from any player that felt okay pouting rather then playing.

If Hanafin wasn't a problem then I am fine extending him. But if they aren't sure if they can sign him then move him. The Flames can't afford to lose that type of asset for nothing.

Didn’t seem like Hanifin was a problem. But there were definitely a few that looked like they might fall into that category.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Or just buy him out. The point was don’t think Hanifin gets you Johnson alone, they need out of Suter so that would help even it out

Suter was their #2 in TOI in both reg season and playoffs.

For that matter, Johnson was 4th in TOI among forwards in the playoffs...

[Major Major]

In a vacuum where player preference doesn't matter, I would work to extend Hanifin more than any other upcoming ufa. He has proven in the last 2 seasons he's a legit top pair guy and if you get 9 years of runway with him, there's a good chance he gets progressively better for a little while. He would only be 35 when the contract expires so even if this team is in a down cycle, he is still an asset we need when we start to get better. I don't think he'd break the bank.

I'd offer 8x7mil

[Paulie Walnuts]

I feel like Hanifin seem genuine in wanting to stay and I think we sign him.

Lindholm in my mind is gone especially if he want to much money.

[TOfan]

Reverse Brad Treliving special;

Hanifin to Detroit for a first and two seconds. First being the 17th from the Islanders.

Who says no?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I feel like Hanifin seem genuine in wanting to stay and I think we sign him.

Lindholm in my mind is gone especially if he want to much money.

Agreed. I would only trade Hanifin if you have to. I hope Lindholm stays and I would give him Horvat’s deal if he’s willing to extend.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I’m happy either way. He’s a great top pairing player who would be great to have for the remainder of his career. He’s also an incredible trade chip due to us already having a reasonably solid and young top 4 without him, and extending him will have serious cap implications due to other contracts already on the books. He’s the best D on the team in my opinion, but we’ve taken so many asset blows in recent years that it would be a smart move to capitalize on the opportunity.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

The Flames don't know what they have in Poirier yet, making a Hanifin trade premature.

Poirier is irrelevant to their Hanifin decision - he’s a high-value top-4 D with one year left.

He’s either extended before the draft or he’s gone.

That’s the only way to do business in the modern NHL.

Losing Gio, Gaudreau and Brodie for nothing set this team back 5 years, and trading Tkachuk for a what they did and extending Huberdeau and Weegar instead of selling them could’ve set them back another 5.

They can’t keep making this mistake, and mercifully, Conroy seems to be aware of this.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Reverse Brad Treliving special;

Hanifin to Detroit for a first and two seconds. First being the 17th from the Islanders.

Who says no?

I’d do it

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I feel like Hanifin seem genuine in wanting to stay and I think we sign him.

Lindholm in my mind is gone especially if he want to much money.

But with no Lindholm, why do “we” want to commit the term and dollars to Hanifin?

He’s never been a PP guy, and he won’t be any time soon with Andersson and Weegar and even OK and Poirier needing offensive touches.

He’s not some sort of elite witch defensively like Tanev (who himself is not worth more than a 4-year commitment as a prime UFA).

He’s going to be very expensive, and he brings the same thing as three other guys, and it’s debatable he’s better than any of them.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Poirier is irrelevant to their Hanifin decision - he’s a high-value top-4 D with one year left.

He’s either extended before the draft or he’s gone.

That’s the only way to do business in the modern NHL.

Losing Gio, Gaudreau and Brodie for nothing set this team back 5 years, and trading Tkachuk for a what they did and extending Huberdeau and Weegar instead of selling them could’ve set them back another 5.

They can’t keep making this mistake, and mercifully, Conroy seems to be aware of this.

Again when people include Gio in this list it is kinda dumb.
EVERY team lost someone in the expansion draft. If they had traded Gio they would have lost someone like Kylington.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I feel like Hanifin seem genuine in wanting to stay and I think we sign him.

Lindholm in my mind is gone especially if he want to much money.

Maybe I missed something but did Hanifin say he wants to stay? Not that it matters what players say publicly. Johnny and Tkachuck both said they wanted to say. Johnny in a more compelling way and on more than one occasion.

Anyway, can’t recall the exact quote but I remember Hanifin offering up at the year end press availability an NHLPA boiler plate type response when asked….maybe that’s a good thing?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

But with no Lindholm, why do “we” want to commit the term and dollars to Hanifin?

He’s never been a PP guy, and he won’t be any time soon with Andersson and Weegar and even OK and Poirier needing offensive touches.

He’s not some sort of elite witch defensively like Tanev (who himself is not worth more than a 4-year commitment as a prime UFA).

He’s going to be very expensive, and he brings the same thing as three other guys, and it’s debatable he’s better than any of them.

I think people are under valuing his worth. He allows Andersson to excel because without his skating and ability Andersson isn't a top pairing player.

He has 38 and 48 points his last two season with no power play time that's pretty impressive.

6'3 awesome skating ability good in his own end able to join the rush I think with a more offensive approach he gets back into the 45-50 point range and he's low maintenance.

Also being forgotten is I think he is a driven player who wants to really good. Go back to his end of season press conference one of thr few guys who took some accountability and talked about how he needs to grow as a leader now.

I really like the player and person. We don't have a Noah Hanifin in the system not even close.

Just imagine all off season last year everyone wanted to ship him out because of the depth if he traded him we would have been screwed.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Reverse Brad Treliving special;

Hanifin to Detroit for a first and two seconds. First being the 17th from the Islanders.

Who says no?

But with a patented Treliving sign and trade so that Detroit knows they'll get full value.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Maybe I missed something but did Hanifin say he wants to stay? Not that it matters what players say publicly. Johnny and Tkachuck both said they wanted to say. Johnny in a more compelling way and on more than one occasion.

Anyway, can’t recall the exact quote but I remember Hanifin offering up at the year end press availability an NHLPA boiler plate type response when asked….maybe that’s a good thing?

Yes he said he wants to stay and become a bigger part of the team as a leader and mentioned guys in his age range who need to step up as well I'm assuming he meant Dube and Mang.

Those 3 guys are in their prime.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Again when people include Gio in this list it is kinda dumb.
EVERY team lost someone in the expansion draft. If they had traded Gio they would have lost someone like Kylington.

Trading Gio to anyone else for anything else would have been better than losing him for nothing to an expansion team.

But fair enough, remove Gio from the list.

-Brodie
-Gaudreau
-Huberdeau
-Weegar
-Lindholm
-Hanifin
-Tkachuk

That list of players is easily worth a minimum of 5 first round picks, probably 7 or 8 in the hands of a crafty GM.

The Calgary Flames (specifically Brad Treliving) have so far parlayed them into one.

[Jason14h]

Four are still on the team and some were traded for each other

What a weird post

[Strange Brew]

So Hanifin wasn’t going to stay if Sutter was the coach. But before Sutter was fired he was quoted as saying he wants to be part of the long term plans here?

I guess it’s possible to reconcile those two sentiments but more likely that we just don’t know what he wants to do.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Trading Gio wasn't simple no one was going to trade us anything of significance for a player they would have left exposed who probably would have been taken unless they spent assets to have Seattle take someone else.

Team learned from previous mistakes.

Imagine Treliving trading a 1st and prospect for Gio only for him to be taken by Seattle or trade a 1st amd something else to Seattle to have them take someone else.

Any GM who pitched that idea would have probably been fired and rightfully so.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yes he said he wants to stay and become a bigger part of the team as a leader and mentioned guys in his age range who need to step up as well I'm assuming he meant Dube and Mang.

Those 3 guys are in their prime.

I expect Hanifin will be signed to an extension, same with Lindholm. I think the Flames will move on from Backlund and Tanev for sure, possibly Vladar as well.