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Old 05-24-2023, 02:19 PM   #81
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My reservation with Love is that didn't the Wranglers play the same system as the Flames? I haven't saw a Wranglers game, so maybe someone who has can chime in... I'm so tired of boring hockey, I would want a coach who has had success with exciting uptempo hockey.
I would think he did because they asked him to. I would doubt that it was his system and Sutter decided to play it as well for continuity purposes.
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Old 05-24-2023, 02:34 PM   #82
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Ideally, I'd like Love as an AC and groomed into the HC position, but I doubt he would take that gig when he knows he's on the radar for a HC gig.
maybe if the title is associate coach over being an assistant coach. then it's clear he's next in line and above the rest of the coaches.
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maybe if the title is associate coach over being an assistant coach. then it's clear he's next in line and above the rest of the coaches.
It worked so well with Tom Renney and Pat Quinn.

Of course ENG so no there's no precendential value in that example.
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Old 05-24-2023, 03:33 PM   #84
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It’ll be interesting to see who Conroy picks. Rest assured with Tre and his coaching hires, Craig will want to get it right.

I’ve heard from a couple of sources that I have, that if Huska isn’t given the HC, he may want to go elsewhere. Take it for what it’s worth. I have no idea on the reputation that Huska has around the league though. So, I wonder what his options would be.
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It’ll be interesting to see who Conroy picks. Rest assured with Tre and his coaching hires, Craig will want to get it right.
If he goes off the board and then declares them the best player in the dradt I will be scared lol
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It’ll be interesting to see who Conroy picks. Rest assured with Tre and his coaching hires, Craig will want to get it right.

I’ve heard from a couple of sources that I have, that if Huska isn’t given the HC, he may want to go elsewhere. Take it for what it’s worth. I have no idea on the reputation that Huska has around the league though. So, I wonder what his options would be.

What other teams need a HC? And with the teams that need a HC would they want to hire a rookie HC? If he goes elsewhere to be an AC then there is the door.
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I'm not convinced that Love hasn't been propped up by wolf the last 2 seasons. I wonder if he wins coach of the year without him.

Teams in a tough spot. Rookie GM with a team that needs a good season. Do you add a rookie coach into that too? Or do you risk losing 1 or 2 top of huska and love.

I think id try huska as coach, mitch as assistant and a more veteran coach as the other assistant.
With any luck, Love will once again have Wolf to prop him up.
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Of course Love was running and having success with Darryl's system. That's a good thing. Look at the teams still in the playoffs. I think it's a mistake to go full Brunette with the Flames. It would be fun and the players probably respond well in the regular season but they get smoked in the playoffs. Guaranteed.
So no worse off than our best recent years then.
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Will say the same thing about Love as I did with Conroy.

What is the point of having people in the organization who are grow into bigger roles as time goes on and in Love's case, are really successful, but when the big job comes along we want to kick them to the curb? Why not invest in 'homegrown' talent?

I would say it speaks very poorly of an organization who has two-time AHL coach of the year in the ranks, but doesn't give him the chance he deserves to be NHL coach.

If we won't, someone else will.

And why will ambitious people come work for the Flames?
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Will say the same thing about Love as I did with Conroy.

What is the point of having people in the organization who are grow into bigger roles as time goes on and in Love's case, are really successful, but when the big job comes along we want to kick them to the curb? Why not invest in 'homegrown' talent?

I would say it speaks very poorly of an organization who has two-time AHL coach of the year in the ranks, but doesn't give him the chance he deserves to be NHL coach.

If we won't, someone else will.

And why will ambitious people come work for the Flames?
Sooooo......dont even bother interviewing others?
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Will say the same thing about Love as I did with Conroy.

What is the point of having people in the organization who are grow into bigger roles as time goes on and in Love's case, are really successful, but when the big job comes along we want to kick them to the curb? Why not invest in 'homegrown' talent?

I would say it speaks very poorly of an organization who has two-time AHL coach of the year in the ranks, but doesn't give him the chance he deserves to be NHL coach.

If we won't, someone else will.

And why will ambitious people come work for the Flames?
You can probably add in 2 time goalie of the year and this years AHL MVP into that discussion. Wolf also needs an opportunity.
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What other teams need a HC? And with the teams that need a HC would they want to hire a rookie HC? If he goes elsewhere to be an AC then there is the door.
Anaheim and Columbus are both in the market for a head coach, and are both in a position where they could take a chance on a rookie.
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My reservation with Love is that didn't the Wranglers play the same system as the Flames? I haven't saw a Wranglers game, so maybe someone who has can chime in... I'm so tired of boring hockey, I would want a coach who has had success with exciting uptempo hockey.
The Wranglers had more goals per game than any other team in the span of the last 2 seasons. Yes, he was using Darryl's systems. Yes, Darryl's systems can create significant offence when the execution and pp are there. Yes Darryl should have been fired. His brand of hockey though still rules the roost if you are watching the 23 playoffs.
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The Wranglers had more goals per game than any other team in the span of the last 2 seasons. Yes, he was using Darryl's systems. Yes, Darryl's systems can create significant offence when the execution and pp are there. Yes Darryl should have been fired. His brand of hockey though still rules the roost if you are watching the 23 playoffs.
I still love Darryl, but it was time. It must've been frustrating for him to deal with today's kids. On his brand though, I think the pressure forecheck is fine and with a few more bounces and an accountable Huberdeau and Kadri should have produced enough goals, BUT, I don't think the man-to-man defense works anymore. The players are way too skilled and fast now for that and I think it showed in the BOA series last year and for most of this year.

Markstrom wasn't great or even average, but the Flames gave up a lot of high danger chances, in fact, it almost seemed like they ONLY gave up high danger chances. It almost seemed like the game plan for the opposition was to skate the puck around the Flames zone and get as many defenders out of position due to the man-to-man. I don't know how many times Zadorov was out chasing the puck carrier by the blueline and I don't think that is just his lack of hockey sense, I think it was him trying to play man-to-man defense as instructed.

As for a coach who can implement a system that Conroy wants, it sure sounds like a combination of Love (leader), Huska (defensive structure - even before Darryl) and Tanguay (offensive creativity in the offensive zone and on the PP).
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Anaheim and Columbus are both in the market for a head coach, and are both in a position where they could take a chance on a rookie.
I have a feeling Gallant goes back to Columbus.
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It’ll be interesting to see who Conroy picks. Rest assured with Tre and his coaching hires, Craig will want to get it right.

I’ve heard from a couple of sources that I have, that if Huska isn’t given the HC, he may want to go elsewhere. Take it for what it’s worth. I have no idea on the reputation that Huska has around the league though. So, I wonder what his options would be.
I would be more than ok with Huska leaving. Give Love his position as Love is also a defensive guru.
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The Wranglers had more goals per game than any other team in the span of the last 2 seasons. Yes, he was using Darryl's systems. Yes, Darryl's systems can create significant offence when the execution and pp are there. Yes Darryl should have been fired. His brand of hockey though still rules the roost if you are watching the 23 playoffs.
No it doesn't. There is not one team left that is playing for 40+ low danger perimeter shots a night just to hope one goes in.
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I still love Darryl, but it was time. It must've been frustrating for him to deal with today's kids. On his brand though, I think the pressure forecheck is fine and with a few more bounces and an accountable Huberdeau and Kadri should have produced enough goals, BUT, I don't think the man-to-man defense works anymore. The players are way too skilled and fast now for that and I think it showed in the BOA series last year and for most of this year.

Markstrom wasn't great or even average, but the Flames gave up a lot of high danger chances, in fact, it almost seemed like they ONLY gave up high danger chances. It almost seemed like the game plan for the opposition was to skate the puck around the Flames zone and get as many defenders out of position due to the man-to-man. I don't know how many times Zadorov was out chasing the puck carrier by the blueline and I don't think that is just his lack of hockey sense, I think it was him trying to play man-to-man defense as instructed.

As for a coach who can implement a system that Conroy wants, it sure sounds like a combination of Love (leader), Huska (defensive structure - even before Darryl) and Tanguay (offensive creativity in the offensive zone and on the PP).
Good, balanced take on the pros and cons of Sutter in the NHL in '23. I think the man defence system can still work well and I love the high pressure D. The team needs to be so cohesive though and we saw none of that this year, a product of coaching, execution, but perhaps the thing few are talking about, high turnover in key positions.
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No it doesn't. There is not one team left that is playing for 40+ low danger perimeter shots a night just to hope one goes in.
Carolina plays a very similar game.
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Huska will be the favorite. ALL the staff would make the decision easy. But the players? If given the choice who do they pick.

I just hope that they get it right. Stay AWAY from Gallant...he'll butt heads with Kadri within the first 10 games and Kadri will dissappear. I don't like Kadri either. To me he's James Neal v02.

Brunette IS not a playoff coach and Cooper took him to school 2 years ago .

I wish Paul Maurice was available. He's changed. I've been so impressed listening to him this year . He's honest, transparent and I don't get an ego vibe from him . He loves his players and they love him. Look at the cats bust their ass's for him .

I think Love needs more seasoning as an asst then he be ready.

I'd like to see Muller gone as well. Bring tangs In for sure or Savard for that matter.
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