Enough is enough - Bring up Wolf.

[PepsiFree]

I don’t think there’s any such risk of ruining a prospect if you bring them up to play when a team isn’t playing amazing. Every player experiences that, it’s part of hockey.

If Wolf is ready, he’ll be fine, and there’s not much more he can do to prove he’s ready.

If he plays poorly and it ruins his confidence, then he’s not what we thought he was anyway.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I don’t think there’s any such risk of ruining a prospect if you bring them up to play when a team isn’t playing amazing. Every player experiences that, it’s part of hockey.

If Wolf is ready, he’ll be fine, and there’s not much more he can do to prove he’s ready.

If he plays poorly and it ruins his confidence, then he’s not what we thought he was anyway.

No doubt.

This team is likely better today than it will he next year, or two years from now based on contract situations and player age.

I'd rather bring him in now than in a rebuilding year two years from now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I have mixed feelings on it.
If you call him up now, what do you do with the other guys? Send Markstrom to the AHL?
If it doesn't go well, what does that do for Wolf's development?

I see the reasoning for why but there may be too much risk that it's just not worth it this season.
Get him ready for next season, make a few other major changes and at least we go into next season excited to watch again.

It opens his eyes to what areas of his game he needs to work on still to get there. He's 21, not 29 and on his last crack at a goaltending career

Holy smokes people, it's impossible to cradle a player gently into an nhl career the way some seem to be suggesting. Will never happen that way, especially for goalies. They can't be buried or sheltered like skaters. Once you're in, you're the guy. Just the nature of goaltending

At least he's regularly starting games and in mid-season form. This is precisely when it is wise to give players a look

Can you possibly look more ready than wolf has? At least he's not rocking an .880, clearly not ready and people are suggesting it.

[home_sweet_dome]

Haven't read thru the thread but there's a very good chance that Wolf is the best goalie in the organization RIGHT NOW.

To not call him up and give him a shot with how Markstrom and Vladar have performed is flat out stupid yet par for the course for this organization.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I wish the team would take risks in the right areas

Like with prospects/young players.. so gun shy

But with signing and splurging on vets (lately, prematurely), no issue

You drafted the talent, show some faith in it. Its better than just defining insanity endlessly and putting your fans through the same agony nightly

Treliving is at the end of the rope and may have left the team handcuffed to some horrid contracts. Why not make a hail Mary to see if your group is just a goalie away from solving its problems?

This team sure loves spinning its wheels and has more patience for it than I could've imagined

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Slava

The other downside is you completely crater Markstrom and whatever sliver of confidence he has left. Not exactly a great message to send to your number one who still has a contract to finish.

Get Marky a shrink so he can work out his confidence problems. When he's on he's really good and when he's bad he stinks. He's too bi-polar for my liking
.

[ComixZone]

Desperate times…maybe Wolf could be our Binnington…?



I’ll even say that it’s literally the only way this team wins the Stanley Cup this season. That if our AHL all star goalie gets called up and goes on to win the Conn Smythe.

Good times. Good times.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Dion

Get Marky a shrink so he can work out his confidence problems. When he's on he's really good and when he's bad he stinks. He's too bi-polar for my liking
.

I was really vibing with the "middle ground" vladar was giving us during that 13 game run

Just perfectly average play, and good at the right times in order to secure points

Then he had to go and impersonate Markstrom in the last two after everybody petitioned to make him the starter

We can't have nice things..

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Desperate times…maybe Wolf could be our Binnington…?



I’ll even say that it’s literally the only way this team wins the Stanley Cup this season. That if our AHL all star goalie gets called up and goes on to win the Conn Smythe.

Good times. Good times.

Well, you're not wrong. It's the only chance.

A slim, slim chance. But one, nevertheless. Better than the big fat 0 they've got now running the current set up


Thanks for posting one of my favourite jim moments

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I was really vibing with the "middle ground" vladar was giving us during that 13 game run

Just perfectly average play, and good at the right times in order to secure points

Then he had to go and impersonate Markstrom in the last two after everybody petitioned to make him the starter

We can't have nice things..

We'd be better off if Marky just straight out sucked every game. That would force Sutter to play Vladar for the vast majority of games down the stretch.

[icarus]

Well I guess I'm on board with this now. The Flames have faced (and lost to) countless goalies I've never heard of this season, time to repay the favour to the league.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Dion

We'd be better off if Marky just straight out sucked every game. That would force Sutter to play Vladar for the vast majority of games down the stretch.

I'm pretty sure he's straight out sucked in like 7 of the last 8 starts

It only bought us maybe one extra vladar start

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Yamer

The mess that was the catalyst for this thread. The team is not a rookie goalie away from turning this around.

They're a rookie goalie and a new PP coach away, yes

I doubt the 2019 Blues thought they were a Binnington away. Sometimes all you need is guts.

[GullFoss]

Would be great to see a poll on this. Can mods add one?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'm pretty sure he's straight out sucked in like 7 of the last 8 starts

It only bought us maybe one extra vladar start

That's not true. But if/when the Flames lose and he's in net that's the narrative here. But he's played well in some games they've lost recently.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

Has there ever been a team that brought up a kid and healthy scratched one of thier starters
? And if so, how long did they go with ta three headed system?

St. Louis called up 24 year old Binnington and won the cup after being last in the league

[Dion]

[edslunch]

Sutter knows that the only realistic chance of the Flames going anywhere in the playoffs is if Markstrom regains his form. It must be killing him inside as he sees the season slip away.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

2013-14 Kings: 25th in goals for, 1st in goals against - Won Stanley cup.
2012-13 Kings: 9th GF, 8th GA - Lost WCF
2011-12 Kings: 29th GF, 2nd GA - Won Stanley Cup

2003-04 Flames: 19th GF, 3rd GA - Lost SCF
2005-06 Flames: 28th GF, 1st GA - won division, lost 1st round.

Sutter is the coach you want when you have an elite goalie.

Without an elite goalie, it isn’t possible to play the way he wants to play and win.

I’ve got no major love for this group, but they’d be minimum 10 points better if they just got the goaltending they got last year.

The only feasible way to fix this is to bring up Wolf and let him run with it.

You want him to be your starter for the next 15 years anyway - no time like the present.

Show us what you got, kid.

What a joke. So the kings did it, that means we have a 10% at doing the same? Did they have any game breakers on that team? Do we? Without getting into the kings depth, I'd rather have 2011/2014 Kopitar, Doughty and Quick over any single player on our team. That's 3 key players at every position over anybody that wears red right now.

Also without Wolf playing any games in the NHL, lets call him up and just pray he's elite, so we can have a chance at some fluke a$$ run. Doesn't matter if the 99% chance he isn't that and we potentially prolong his development, because hey we have that 1% chance he steps right in and is elite and we know what Sutter can do with elite goaltending lol.

God damn delusional fan base too. Some of you should work for the team, fit right in.

[Snuffleupagus]

A little harsh there CGY12, but I guess you're in Toronto so you would know all about god damn delusional fan bases.