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Old 10-29-2022, 12:54 PM   #81
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Bringing up regular season stats after getting trounced in the playoffs is a sad look
Sadly agree. We really have no base to trash talk Edmonton after last years playoffs. The team needs to show up and show that our new depth down the middle and having home ice can beat them soundly. Markstrom as well needs to show he can play them well. We shut down McDavid in Edmonton last time hope we can do the same here.
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Pop one in early on Skinner and I think you really make them question everything.
I don't say I'm "salivating " at things often but I am salivating at the opportunity for the flames to stoke a goaltending controversy .. let the doubt flow through them
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:01 PM   #83
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Sadly agree. We really have no base to trash talk Edmonton after last years playoffs. The team needs to show up and show that our new depth down the middle and having home ice can beat them soundly. Markstrom as well needs to show he can play them well. We shut down McDavid in Edmonton last time hope we can do the same here.
what is this nonsense? yes we do. last spring has no bearing on anything today . completely different team and season now . agreed on markstrom that he needs to prove he can be steady against them but as for the skaters I think the Flames are built to handle a team like Edmonton well now as opposed to before . I'm certainly not holding back because they beat a Flames team that doesn't exist any more
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:11 PM   #85
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Built-in excuse for the Oilers if they lose, fans will complain that the Flames got to play another backup. Not exactly a vote of confidence for their well-paid starter.
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Soup - Numbers don't support it but he has been good, not great, which is what we expected.
Stew - Numbers are off the charts and he has had 2 excellent games and a good game (Loss to Buffalo).

Neither goalie is letting in the blooper at an unexpected time like Smith or Koskinen and both goalies have made key saves at critical times when we have needed it.

Who do you start versus the inbred heathen horde down south Saturday night?

I go with Campbell, he will want to show he is the guy and the players will want to badly get him the win as they let him down with their poor play vs Calgary in the 1st period 2 weeks ago in Edmonton.

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Campbell has not been what I expected. Makes some big saves but hasn’t been close to a 5 mill goalie. Terrible rebound control.

Skinner has looked unreal though.

I think Campbell bounces back and is still the definite starter.
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Hopefully Calgary has this mindset as well and stops hiding Markstrom from us
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I've never watched an Oil game in enemy territory and I'm debating to make the 5 hour one way trip to finally make it happen. It is one thing going to see your team in a nice modern barn with your own fans. Part of me doesn't want to drive all the way there to sit in the saddle dump arena and have the issue of possibly being taken out by falling concrete.
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Early days but both have their appeal…Soup is just marinating a bit longer ( new systems, sometimes sketchy dzone play, and finding a comfort level).
To me, Soup reminds me of Grant Fuhr in the sense that stats didn’t mean much except the Ws….make the saves that win.
Skinner is showing technical brilliance and a calm/controlled demeanour when things get hairy. Most unusual for a young goalie.
Great combo….let’s roll!
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Its a Saturday night so there will be a lot of cringe factor around the game. Don't expect to able to wear the Oilers jersey not have Flames fans asshats come at you. They will. You'd think it would be OK, but it tends not to be. Its like drunk city on a Saturday night. Your worries won't be concrete falling on your head.

tbh I wouldn't bother. Take the chance for playoffs or late season but wouldn't risk Calgary idiocy for an October game.
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but when we beat the Flames I’m personally happy, but I rarely, if ever gloat. Yet Flames fans I know NEED to brag when they win. Small man complex? Middle child complex? Or just a bunch of obnoxious city Cowboys, who watch the Stampede once a year and think because they’re current in Yellowstone that they all of a sudden are ten feet tall and bulletproof?

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God bless the NHL for being so bad at marketing it’s own product. Oilers and Flames only play 3 times this year and they burn 2 of those games off in the first 10 games of the season.

The fact we don’t play the flames in the final 4 months of the season is so dumb.
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Maybe an unpopular opinion, but based off the last BoA, I have more confidence in Skinner being in net tonight than Campbell.

Especially based off the rebound control which the Lames will capitalize on in front of the net more than Chicago did.

I’m pretty opposing teams are being told to go hard around the net if Campbell is in, just like the intel was Kosk’s glove hand
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Did you guys know Sutter is the smartestest coach ever because he bag skated his team during a 4 day break??

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I’m alway concerned about this teams ability to start strong. Sutter has his team conditioned and bag skating. This will be a good indicator of which team is better prepared early on to have a strong season. Let’s go oilers.
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will be at the dome tonight enjoying $5 beer and pizza, the only good thing about the flames.
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I dunno if the boys are fired up or dog-ass tired...

I'm gonna be ok with whatever they manage to pull off tonight.
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what is this nonsense? yes we do. last spring has no bearing on anything today . completely different team and season now . agreed on markstrom that he needs to prove he can be steady against them but as for the skaters I think the Flames are built to handle a team like Edmonton well now as opposed to before . I'm certainly not holding back because they beat a Flames team that doesn't exist any more
We turned over four players not exactly an entirely new team. Sure I dislike Edmonton and always will but let’s not try to pretend that series didn’t happen. We thought last year our team was built to handle them and to play disciplined but then that all went out the window.
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it's a low pressure situation for skinner since there wasn't any one pushing him for the back up role and he's not the guy freshly signed to a 5 x 5 . I can see why he would be playing well early , but I don't see that being long lived as the adversity hasn't come yet for him . we saw hot starts with rittich where he was top 5 in the league but then he fell off as the season went on and he had to rebound from a couple bad games
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And as for Edmonton I think they’re already in a goalie crisis. A handful of games in and they’re playing their backup instead of their FA signing in a pivotal rivalry game. If they lose it just puts the ball back in Campbells hand. If they win or Skinner has a great game in a loss that might solidify the crisis even more. On the Vlader vs Markstrom thing sure I want to see Vlader in to spell him but with two games in nine days you know they have to play Markstrom. You can’t let both goalies get cold at this time of year. There will be plenty of time to play Vlader later when they’re having 3-4 games a week.
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Built-in excuse for the Oilers if they lose, fans will complain that the Flames got to play another backup. Not exactly a vote of confidence for their well-paid starter.
Skinner is the better goalie.
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the game where he let in 4 goals in the second period, that included a Kane hat trick and Vladar started the 3rd period?
No. The regular season game in January in which he allowed a single goal in the win.

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Old 10-29-2022, 01:42 PM   #93
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Pop one in early on Skinner and I think you really make them question everything.
Disagree.
Any talk the Oilers make about defense is simply lip service.

Collectively as an entire team they are numb to giving up goals.

They are looking for all offence, all the time. Their top line and even the second line will continue to jump their zone early looking for an odd man rush. Or stay deeper or longer in the offensive zone.

A big reason why the Flames didn't win last playoffs was simply that the Flames (and most teams) have a conscious about defending, and when goals went in off the rush or whatever, it got in the teams' head and individual players confidence took a hit, in game and in series..

When the Oilers give up multiple goals, they literally don't care, it doesn't affect their game plan or their individual confidence like it should, and just try and score more.

Did the Oilers make adjustments game 1 when they gave up the first 4 goals the Flames scored first? Nope, they kept making the same plays which left the goalies hung out to dry. Then they got the puck breaks they look for and got goals back, but the the Flames defenders (Hanifan and Andersson especially) instantly started to play different. By game 3, when Oilers scored on 4 of 6 odd man ruahes in half a period, they had zero confidence left.
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Flames vs Refs tonight is my guess. League will be looking for an Oilers win both for the standings and the intensified 3rd game later in the year.

Unless the Flames can score about 10 tonight I'm thinking it's gonna be a tough one. Defense has not looked real organized on transitional stuff for a few games and that's the Oilers' entire attack.
I don't think there is a league conspiracy, but everyone has biases, and I think there is a pervasive bias that the Oilers are a speed team and the Flames are a plodding physical team. It is completely wrong, but I think the bias exists.

The Oilers have become a REALLY dirty team. I predict they will be extremely dirty tonight, but the Flames will get a bunch of ticky-tack calls
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We turned over four players not exactly an entirely new team. Sure I dislike Edmonton and always will but let’s not try to pretend that series didn’t happen. We thought last year our team was built to handle them and to play disciplined but then that all went out the window.
some extremely key pieces were changed and it gives half of the team new looks . the team looks drastically different in many ways this year .. and no longer runs through one player

also "I dislike Edmonton but" always looks like closet oiler fan speak

if you thought the Flames were playing anywhere near their game that series you are mistaken . they played Edmonton's sloppy end to end game from period 2 on for reasons unknown .. maybe because they were overconfident after winning a hard fought series and thought they could best the Oilers at their own game rather than forcing them to play into the Flames tight checking , hard working style

I just don't put a lot of weight into 5 games that got out of hand for a number of reasons especially now that meaningful changes to the core have been made . it's history now and the Oilers flopped immediately afterward against a team on its game and it wasn't close , so what does that say about their team that is actually the same this year
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Bringing up regular season stats after getting trounced in the playoffs is a sad look
Ignoring everything else, just because of a single playoff series, is also kind of sad.
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We turned over four players not exactly an entirely new team.
That's disingenuous. This year's Flames have two new first-line forwards, a new second-line centre, and a new top-four defenceman. It's the core of the team that has changed, not just four random roster players.
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When the Flames chase Stinker, uhh..I mean Skinner tonight, Oilers really gonna have a goalie controversy as in which goalie to start in the next game.
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