[PGT] What the Tuch -- Flames lose 6-3 to Sabres

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by jayswin

That's weird cause that's what I thought of Huberdeau as well when he made a lot of his passes last year on highlights. But CaliPanthersFan is a season ticket holder in Florida and said this isn't true, that he'd be great with a Toffoli type because he likes to cycle it down low and wait to make passes, so a guy like Toffoli can catch up and get fed.

For the record, I think he's also great in the zone once set up, but to fully utilize him you need two fast forwards that can take quick passes, at high speed. This is where Toffoli isn't much of an option until the play is settled in the oppositions zone.

I’ve been on record saying that Lindholm isn’t the right center for Huberdeau. Gaudreau and Lindholm worked great because Gaudreau did all the heavy lifting with the puck on his stick and Lindholm played well off that doing the checking and dirty work.

I said last week that Backlund would be a better center for Huberdeau and I liked what I saw from them tonight. Backlund does a great job moving the puck up the ice and I think that’ll give Huberdeau the time and space to use his vision and make plays.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by jayswin

That's weird cause that's what I thought of Huberdeau as well when he made a lot of his passes last year on highlights. But CaliPanthersFan is a season ticket holder in Florida and said this isn't true, that he'd be great with a Toffoli type because he likes to cycle it down low and wait to make passes, so a guy like Toffoli can catch up and get fed.

For the record, I think he's also great in the zone once set up, but to fully utilize him you need two fast forwards that can take quick passes, at high speed. This is where Toffoli isn't much of an option until the play is settled in the oppositions zone.

Just wondering, who did he play with last year in Florida? Was Bennett fast player? Or Bennett just faster than Toffoli?

[camm13]

Originally Posted by jayswin

That's weird cause that's what I thought of Huberdeau as well when he made a lot of his passes last year on highlights. But CaliPanthersFan is a season ticket holder in Florida and said this isn't true, that he'd be great with a Toffoli type because he likes to cycle it down low and wait to make passes, so a guy like Toffoli can catch up and get fed.

For the record, I think he's also great in the zone once set up, but to fully utilize him you need two fast forwards that can take quick passes, at high speed. This is where Toffoli isn't much of an option until the play is settled in the oppositions zone.

I think we have may have watched the similar highlights. When the trade first broke, there was a guy who put out a highlights package showing the type of plays Huberdeau made (basically stating he was a very different kind of set up man than Gaudreau was), and most plays were made on the rush, not much of it was him actually carrying the puck in. I haven't really seen him make plays downlow, and I feel like Lindholm is not so much of a dump and chase kind of guy. Huberdeau's adjustment is also playing with 2 righties for the first time.

I feel like a Lindholm/Kadri swap could work, or a Toffoli/Mang swap as much as I don't want to split the 2nd line. Yeah, it's just 4 games into the season. But gotta get the big guns rolling 5 on 5.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yes they suck, you just said they would finish 0-82 in that division...they just beat the Rangers who many consider to be a top team

Yes I literally mean they will go 0-82…

Sharks are going to get clobbered in any division but the Atlantic would be a nightmare.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Just wondering, who did he play with last year in Florida? Was Bennett fast player? Or Bennett just faster than Toffoli?

Bennett & Duclair.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Who are the bad teams?

Montreal is not a good team...like are you trolling me?

maybe one of those teams you mentioned will make the playoffs

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yes I literally mean they will go 0-82…

Sharks are going to get clobbered in any division but the Atlantic would be a nightmare.

I will bet you $1000 right now that the Sharks will beat an Atlantic division team this season...forget the weed put down the crack pipe

[Steve Bozek]

Replacing Hanifin and Kylington with Stone and Mackey = a much slower defense that is also much less skilled at getting the puck out of the Flames’ zone.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Sabres apparently have been outshot all season .. shooting at an obscene percentage right now but if that subsides and it will, the wins will be much harder to come by

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I will bet you $1000 right now that the Sharks will beat an Atlantic division team this season...forget the weed put down the crack pipe

Are you serious? I am exaggerating. Then the next post was sarcasm… lol yikes.

[Samonadreau]

I blame not having 690 swears in the GDT.

[Flames_Gimp]

2.5 hours i'll never get back lol
on to the next game

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I blame not having 690 swears in the GDT.

i said we have to swear in every gdt after the vegas game lol

[TheScorpion]

Not sure what was worse -- that game, or the Joey MacDonald jersey I saw on the way out

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Montreal is not a good team...like are you trolling me?

maybe one of those teams you mentioned will make the playoffs

Could be right. Could be just a playoff format thing though and they may end up with better records than Metro div teams. It’s right but ya, no way Montreal finishes last. Buffalo or Ottawa can make playoffs this year though it’ll be close.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Are you serious? I am exaggerating. Then the next post was sarcasm… lol yikes.

yikes yourself...there will be some teams in that division in the Bedard sweepstakes...Montreal for one

Sens, Detroit, Buffalo...one might squeak in, probably not

there are 100% bad teams in that division

You just called

Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit, and Montreal "ridiculous" like in a good way lol

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by camm13

I think we have may have watched the similar highlights. When the trade first broke, there was a guy who put out a highlights package showing the type of plays Huberdeau made (basically stating he was a very different kind of set up man than Gaudreau was), and most plays were made on the rush, not much of it was him actually carrying the puck in. I haven't really seen him make plays downlow, and I feel like Lindholm is not so much of a dump and chase kind of guy. Huberdeau's adjustment is also playing with 2 righties for the first time.

I feel like a Lindholm/Kadri swap could work, or a Toffoli/Mang swap as much as I don't want to split the 2nd line. Yeah, it's just 4 games into the season. But gotta get the big guns rolling 5 on 5.

Actually, I think Lindholm is fantastic at the dump and chase game. His line’s problem is that they don’t generate enough speed in transition to dump and chase effectively. Also, Huberdeau and Toffoli aren’t the most effective checkers either, so they’re sort of a mess of a line that doesn’t really generate much on the rush or check very well.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by traptor

Huberdeau doesn't drive play like gaudreau did, and neither does Lindholm or Toffoli. Feel like you need to swap Lindholm with Kadri or Toffoli with Mang on that line.

he doesnt but huberbeau has a much bigger bag of tricks than Johnny does .. gaudreau often ran out of ideas and would go for sharp angles or circle back .. huby is more creative, but doesnt carry the puck enough to transition like John . there are pros and cons

[activeStick]

Ouch

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[FlamesAreOne]

Wow that game sucked.