08-02-2022, 07:19 PM
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#81
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
His partner during those same playoffs has yet to even be signed to an NHL contract.
Almost as if "without Tanev" is an incomplete statement. You put Cale Makar with a #7/#8 defenseman and he would not look as good as he does with Devon Toews.
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You definitely lost me with the Kylington to Makar comparison.
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08-02-2022, 07:27 PM
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#82
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Also people need to keep in mind that Treliving’s budget is tight. He spends to get UFA years from Kylington (a gamble) and has less money for Huberdeau, Mangiapane and Weegar (way less of a gamble)
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Exactly. If we didn’t trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar and just signed Tkachuk or trades Tkachuk for youth I would be fine with wrapping up OK up for 6 years
The Tkachuk trade changed things and IMO pushed OK down the depth chart. Why buy UFA years for a player who likely is 5th on the depth chart, doesn’t play on the pp or pk? Things changed with the addition of Weegar and I’d rather pay Mangiapane Weegar and Huberdeau
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08-02-2022, 07:39 PM
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#83
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First Line Centre
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The good news is a great deal just got signed
The bad news is there’s no competent hockey talk to be found this time of year
The good news is we have a local all sports station so they talked about it in hour 2 of “sportsnet today”
https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/sportsn...ntract-flames/
The bad news is there’s no competent hockey talk to be found so our local all sports station uploaded the wrong clip. Whoopsie poopsie fan 960 cheepnis abounds.
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08-02-2022, 07:40 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Great! Yet try to say imo a lot more than attacking a post.
I would of tried to sign him longer at a little more money. Buy some ufa years.
You then say he could be leaving a fortune on the table? Sure!
Which is exactly why I would of liked a longer term contract.
What was offered I do not know. You dont know either.
Yet this walks the player right to UFA status.
I am not bad mouthing the player or the team or you.
I would of liked to sign him longer.
You dont say if you agree or disagree with me. You say he would want more money? I am sure he would.
What are we debating?
I would like to know.
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WOULD HAVE.
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08-02-2022, 07:47 PM
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#85
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Have course!
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08-02-2022, 07:48 PM
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#86
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Field near Field, AB
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100% love this player and a good deal for both sides! Can't wait to see what he does in the next 2 years.
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08-02-2022, 07:48 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
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Good to see for one of the nicest, good looking guys you will ever meet.
Glad he’s a Flame.
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08-02-2022, 07:49 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Seems like a very good deal. Nice signing.
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08-02-2022, 08:19 PM
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#89
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
His partner during those same playoffs has yet to even be signed to an NHL contract.
Almost as if "without Tanev" is an incomplete statement. You put Cale Makar with a #7/#8 defenseman and he would not look as good as he does with Devon Toews.
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I bet Cale Makar would still look amazing beside a scrub.
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08-02-2022, 08:24 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Ugh. It is driving me crazy.
"would HAVE"
This is not hard.
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What would of he had if he would have??
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08-02-2022, 08:28 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
What would of he had if he would have??
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Half
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08-02-2022, 08:35 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Great! Yet try to say imo a lot more than attacking a post.
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I didn't read Jiri's post as attacking your view.
Buying UFA years probably means a 4 or 5 year contract starts with a 4. Tre can't pay a guy that much money coming off 30 points in 70 NHL games. He was not good in the playoffs sans Tanev, which could indicate that his output was more Tanev than Kylington finding his game.
Personally, I was hoping he'd sign between $2M and $2.5M, basically the "Sam Bennett show me contract."
Sam showed very little, probably needed a change of scenery and that's what he got. Oliver is in a very similar situation.
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Last edited by DoubleK; 08-02-2022 at 08:37 PM.
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08-02-2022, 08:35 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Ugh. It is driving me crazy.
"would HAVE"
This is not hard.
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Your nuts
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08-02-2022, 08:38 PM
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#95
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Scoring Winger
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Fair deal
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08-02-2022, 08:39 PM
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#96
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#1 Goaltender
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Cheaper by a bit than his current value as it's only 2 years and walks him to UFA. Fair contract for both really. In navigating the teams priorities this was a smart deal.
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08-02-2022, 08:47 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
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Was hoping for $2.25, expecting $2.5, fearing higher. Good deal.
Kylington has tools, but the bottom line is that he has put up less than 1 season of good hockey, no way you give a guy like that a long term deal. If he continues to progress, pay him. If he doesn't, no harm, no foul.
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08-02-2022, 08:53 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Kylington and Phillips are two I've had unreasonably high expectations since watching their opening prospect camp highlights.
Erik Karlsson 2.0 and Right Shot Gaudreau respectively
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08-02-2022, 08:54 PM
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#99
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I think this is absolutely right. He needs to prove that he can be an NHLer without having an ideal partner like Tanev before he justifies more $$/term.
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08-02-2022, 08:58 PM
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#100
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
Your nuts
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AAAUUUURRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!
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