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Old 05-11-2022, 05:03 PM   #81
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just saying you can see him caulk is shoulder up for impact, in his head in the moment when it's not slow motion, he probably was thinking of a shoulder impact.
The case can be made… but it can't be made convincing.
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Old 05-11-2022, 05:12 PM   #82
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This looks really dangerous to me. Having a guy that tall and strong just smash his helmet into another player's face at full force? How is that any different than a swing with a stick to the head? 1 game is a joke.
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Old 05-11-2022, 05:18 PM   #83
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I still don’t understand how you can your chin driven into by a hard plastic helmet and not get injured…wobbly like JG was last game, or at very least, cut.

If there was a cut on the play that’s easily 2 games, if it wobbled him, probably 4…and refs couldn’t avoid calling a penalty. Not sure how two refs missed that in the first place.

Danualt with a steel jaw. Nurse got off very light for a very dirty play..

Wonder if he appeals to be able to play tomorrow?

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Old 05-11-2022, 05:22 PM   #84
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the refs should be suspended for not calling a penalty on that play
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I still don’t understand how you can your chin driven into by a hard plastic helmet and not get injured…wobbly like JG was last game, or at very least, cut.

If there was a cut on the play that’s easily 2 games, if it wobbled him, probably 4…and refs couldn’t avoid calling a penalty. Not sure how two refs missed that in the first place.

Danualt with a steel jaw. Nurse got off very light for a very dirty play..

Wonder if he appeals to be able to play tomorrow?
The Oilers got away with tonnes last night. One of the worst displays of officiating in the playoffs so far. Most of it was interference. For a team that is supposedly fast, they sure clutch and grab a lot.

Nurse's headbutt was a culmination of what happens when they let one team act with impunity all night. The line gets pushed further as the game goes.
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I just noticed that Nurse follows up into the headbutt so hard that he breaks his own stick. What was he thinking? It's possible that his own stick breaks from the pre-headbutt double armed whack (which is also not acceptable).

I still don't get how Danault didn't sustain an injury like a concussion or broken jaw, teeth, etc.. in that play.
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Nurse clearly power swoops and uppercuts Danault's chin. Baaaaaaaaa-hhahahahhaaaaaaaad move and could've easily resulted in a broken jaw.

What a loser!
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Old 05-11-2022, 06:08 PM   #88
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Players get suspended more games for hockey plays like hitting. Should have been rest of playoffs, carried over into 8-10 games of reg season. There is no excuse.
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Old 05-11-2022, 06:11 PM   #89
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Not sure why they can't keep things simple by having a spreadsheet listing infraction ---> punishment and just follow it to a "T". Would simplify their job and there would be no ground for appeals, etc... Needlessly complicated imo
Way too much nuance between incidents, and you can't anticipate every possible action (see Benn, Jamie).

I would like to see DOPS cite at least 2 similar incidents whenever possible. "This incident was worse than X because ___; it wasn't as bad as Y because ____" (but there are obvious PR reasons why they don't do this)


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I just noticed that Nurse follows up into the headbutt so hard that he breaks his own stick. What was he thinking? It's possible that his own stick breaks from the pre-headbutt double armed whack (which is also not acceptable).

I still don't get how Danault didn't sustain an injury like a concussion or broken jaw, teeth, etc.. in that play.
He probably broke his stick on the ridiculous slash 2 seconds before.
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Players get suspended more games for hockey plays like hitting. Should have been rest of playoffs, carried over into 8-10 games of reg season. There is no excuse.
I think that no injury had a lot to do with the lightness of the suspension. Rightly or wrongly the league weights that pretty heavily (from Burke).

Nurse’s No Goodness is so great that he can’t even hurt someone with a vicious head butt.
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It's interesting that you can now recall an AHL player in game one of a series, have him intentionally drive his helmet as hard as he can into the jaw of the best player of the opposing team, and sit him the next game.

Intentional headbutting is a hard skill to practice, but for a marginal player it might be a nice thing to have in your back pocket. Being allowed to headhunt one of the top two opponents really opens up a new aspect to the game.

Exciting!
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It's interesting that you can now recall an AHL player in game one of a series, have him intentionally drive his helmet as hard as he can into the jaw of the best player of the opposing team, and sit him the next game.

Intentional headbutting is a hard skill to practice, but for a marginal player it might be a nice thing to have in your back pocket. Being allowed to headhunt one of the top two opponents really opens up a new aspect to the game.

Exciting!
And I suspect the Kings had a quiet talk with the league and said "Hey this is a suspension, or we'll just have some schlub take McDavid's head off, easy peasy."
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That really seems like Nurse tried to hit him and was a victim of being bigger.

Don’t think he meant to hit him with his head.

Lyle Odelein back in the day. Now that was a headbut.
Being bigger than someone doesn’t make your head hit them. Being smaller does. If you’re bigger, you have to duck more to lead with your head.
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Looks like Nurse was looking to get a day off for international Nurse day. Success!
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Even thought Nurse is at best a average number 2 defenseman on a good team, he's Edmonton's top defenseman and minutes eater. He's also a catalyst for their physical game. In a regular season they can survive without him. In a road playoff game against a pretty determined LA team, its a big loss.


At the same time, once again Edmonton is showing a real lack of character, and work ethic. It feels like a team that just loafs to wins, but when the tables turn on them they don't know what to do.


In the words of more then one coach "Talent don't win, if Talent doesn't work hard"


Edmonton's talent doesn't have work ethic when the chips are down.
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That really seems like Nurse tried to hit him and was a victim of being bigger.

Don’t think he meant to hit him with his head.

Lyle Odelein back in the day. Now that was a headbut.
Wait, what? He came from underneath. He hit the jaw area with the top of his head. How does being bigger do that?
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Wait, what? He came from underneath. He hit the jaw area with the top of his head. How does being bigger do that?
He was falling up.
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I think that no injury had a lot to do with the lightness of the suspension. Rightly or wrongly the league weights that pretty heavily (from Burke).

Nurse’s No Goodness is so great that he can’t even hurt someone with a vicious head butt.
you're right, but man, what a standard -- you need to actually debilitate someone before we take it seriously.
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Should rename it the Department of Player Safety from Reprecussions, disgustingly soft punishment, but this has been their MO for years. They base off result, not intent. Wonder how many games a player would get for shooting a gun at another player if they miss and only graze their ear, 5k fine?
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