Milestone countdowns - Johnny, Lindy and Chucky milestones achieved!

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Massive kudos to Johnny for the remarkable season and his milestone night. It honestly wasn’t that long ago that CP was ready to boot Johnny right out of town. The thousands of trade proposals and rumors, the endless criticism, the picking apart of every facet of his game from the “he’s too small, timid, weak, blah blah blah,” to his workout regiment or the bad diet talk and the the “he’s lost a step” or been “figured out” bologna.

I’m glad he’s never felt vindictive to the fans or reporters like other athletes of the world. I just hope he remembers this night when he’s trying to decide where he wants to spend the rest of his career. It was a real special night for him and his family to partake and I hope this was the kind of night that keeps him from looking elsewhere. This team and franchise needs him.

Not trying to be a wet blanket during this awesome season he's having, but the reality is that he is without a contract next year and his playoff performances have left something to be desired. Trade proposals were not a ridiculous suggestion, especially with the possibility of him walking.

For the record, I hope we sign him for 8.

[Ryan Coke]

Originally Posted by Macman

Quite an achievement by Johnny, so steady and consistent. It’s been 20 years since Theo did it. Big deal to do this in the NHL, lucky to have him here.

30 years, actually. Either way, a loooong time ago.

[Nadal Fan]

Johnny now exactly 500 points behind Iginla for the franchise lead. If he signs a 7/8 year extension, he could become the franchise leader in points when it's all said and done.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Not trying to be a wet blanket during this awesome season he's having, but the reality is that he is without a contract next year and his playoff performances have left something to be desired. Trade proposals were not a ridiculous suggestion, especially with the possibility of him walking.

For the record, I hope we sign him for 8.

I think we’ll see him do just fine this post season. His usual drop off occurred post all star break where the game changes which coincided with a drastic fall off in his numbers.

Not this time around though. His production post all star break has been excellent as with his numbers against playoff teams.

Like I’ve said many times in the past, the previous lines Gaudreau was on relied heavily on run & gun which disappears in the playoffs/late in the season.

But now that he’s with Lindholm and Tkachuk, they don’t just rely on running & gunning, they check for their chances and that’s how you produce in the playoffs.

I don’t know if they’ll keep up the same 100 point paces, but as long as they can win their matchups at 5 on 5, then I’m much more optimistic for this team’s success then the failed Gaudreau-Monahan duo that basically lost every series match up from the 2015 Ducks to today. Hard to win playoff series when the top line is actually hurting the team rather than helping.


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[Hockey_Ninja]

I randomly remembered this post from last year in the Random Thoughts thread. Called it

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I had a dream that Johnny scored 100 points next season. Let’s hope this becomes a reality

[btimbit]

Man, if we end up with three 40-goal scorers and two 100 point seasons.... hoooo baby

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Massive kudos to Johnny for the remarkable season and his milestone night. It honestly wasn’t that long ago that CP was ready to boot Johnny right out of town. The thousands of trade proposals and rumors, the endless criticism, the picking apart of every facet of his game from the “he’s too small, timid, weak, blah blah blah,” to his workout regiment or the bad diet talk and the the “he’s lost a step” or been “figured out” bologna.

I’m glad he’s never felt vindictive to the fans or reporters like other athletes of the world. I just hope he remembers this night when he’s trying to decide where he wants to spend the rest of his career. It was a real special night for him and his family to partake and I hope this was the kind of night that keeps him from looking elsewhere. This team and franchise needs him.

From a fan perspective and having the privilege to watch him do what he has done this year so far, it's fair to say that not trading him was the right move. From a long term asset management perspective, a lot of it hinges on how the team does in the playoffs and whether the Flames can retain him past this season. If the Flames don't go all the way, or at least make it past a couple of rounds, and JG leaves as a free agent, that could set the organization back pretty bad. We won't have enough information about the cost and benefit to look at it objectively for quite some time.

My take is that there is no point in even worrying about it at this point though.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Johnny now exactly 500 points behind Iginla for the franchise lead. If he signs a 7/8 year extension, he could become the franchise leader in points when it's all said and done.

Yes please.

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I think we’ll see him do just fine this post season. His usual drop off occurred post all star break where the game changes which coincided with a drastic fall off in his numbers.

Not this time around though. His production post all star break has been excellent as with his numbers against playoff teams.

Like I’ve said many times in the past, the previous lines Gaudreau was on relied heavily on run & gun which disappears in the playoffs/late in the season.

But now that he’s with Lindholm and Tkachuk, they don’t just rely on running & gunning, they check for their chances and that’s how you produce in the playoffs.

I don’t know if they’ll keep up the same 100 point paces, but as long as they can win their matchups at 5 on 5, then I’m much more optimistic for this team’s success then the failed Gaudreau-Monahan duo that basically lost every series match up from the 2015 Ducks to today. Hard to win playoff series when the top line is actually hurting the team rather than helping.


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The guys up north can't stop talking about how bad Johnny is in the playoffs, not recognizing the reason he was in the past and what's different this year. Which is quite the delicious irony because their duhnamic duo can't do crap in the post season, and nothing about them is different this year.

Johnny didn't just do what he does, but more of it. He has changed into an actual 2 way hockey player along with his line-mates who realized that if you are on the ice and you want to score but you don't have the puck, you don't wait for someone to get it to you, you put it in gear and go get it yourself.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by GhostCookie

The guys up north can't stop talking about how bad Johnny is in the playoffs, not recognizing the reason he was in the past and what's different this year. Which is quite the delicious irony because their duhnamic duo can't do crap in the post season, and nothing about them is different this year.

Johnny didn't just do what he does, but more of it. He has changed into an actual 2 way hockey player along with his line-mates who realized that if you are on the ice and you want to score but you don't have the puck, you don't wait for someone to get it to you, you put it in gear and go get it yourself.

Did they brag about how wonderful their wonder twins were in the playoff, who just got swept the last time around?

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

From a fan perspective and having the privilege to watch him do what he has done this year so far, it's fair to say that not trading him was the right move. From a long term asset management perspective, a lot of it hinges on how the team does in the playoffs and whether the Flames can retain him past this season. If the Flames don't go all the way, or at least make it past a couple of rounds, and JG leaves as a free agent, that could set the organization back pretty bad. We won't have enough information about the cost and benefit to look at it objectively for quite some time.

My take is that there is no point in even worrying about it at this point though.

Fair point.

I think winning is numero uno and I believe Brad Treliving is of the same opinion. This was always going to be the last year of his “window” and he went all in. Not even going to blame him as his leash going into the season was quite short, so why not do everything in your power to win so that your tenure here with the Flames didn’t look like a complete failure.

At some point the asset management game has to be put on hold to win and the path was wide open for the Flames to do just that this season.


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[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by GhostCookie

The guys up north can't stop talking about how bad Johnny is in the playoffs, not recognizing the reason he was in the past and what's different this year. Which is quite the delicious irony because their duhnamic duo can't do crap in the post season, and nothing about them is different this year.

Johnny didn't just do what he does, but more of it. He has changed into an actual 2 way hockey player along with his line-mates who realized that if you are on the ice and you want to score but you don't have the puck, you don't wait for someone to get it to you, you put it in gear and go get it yourself.

Yeah based on what I’ve seen from Gaudreau this season in tight checking games or big pressure matches, I’m more confident in Johnny doing better in this year’s playoffs than I ever was in the past.

If the previous M.O was for the opposition to just hack, slash and whack Gaudreau while double teaming him, then I’ve got bad news for them. They’re going to get burned by Tkachuk or Lindholm. That’s key in my opinion. You can’t just focus all of your attention on Gaudreau anymore.

Monahan back in the day didn’t hold up his side of the bargain in my opinion. He would defer to Gaudreau every time and the opposition got wise to it. They cheated to his side because they knew the puck was always going to #13.

So then you end up with Gaudreau getting surrounded, double-triple teamed, the defense would step up on him and it would end up as a turnover. We’ve seen way less of that because his linemates have taken the pressure off of him and he has more room to wheel and deal.

This is the same Gaudreau I saw back with MacKinnon in the 2016 World Cup where he was arguably the best player for that team which included the likes of McDavid, Matthews and etc. I think Johnny is going to do just fine this post season.


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[CalgaryFan1988]

I know this is a Flames thread, but I just wanted to mention how cool it is, after their career rivalry, that Crosby and Ovechkin are currently tied for career points (1405).

Both tied at 21st on the NHL All-time Points Leaderboard.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I know this is a Flames thread, but I just wanted to mention how cool it is that, after their career rivalry, that Crosby and Malkin are currently tied for career points (1405).

Both tied at 21st on the NHL All-time Points Leaderboard.

they were born in 1985 and 1987- of the 20 guys ahead of them, only 3 were born in the 70s or later- Jagr, Selanne, Thornton


certainly they are blazing trails we haven't/hadn't seen in a long time

[Flamesfan05]

Should stop chasing the individual awards. From here in, you get paid on how you do in the playoffs.

[tkflames]

In light of what Sutter is preaching...this thread is bad juju

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Kind of funny seeing a couple of recent comments here.

As fans, we have no bearing on the outcome of playoffs, let alone talking about accolades on the internet.

I completely agree with Sutter's sentiments but that's for the players not for fans.

[AC]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I know this is a Flames thread, but I just wanted to mention how cool it is that, after their career rivalry, that Crosby and Malkin are currently tied for career points (1405).

Both tied at 21st on the NHL All-time Points Leaderboard.

Malkin has 1141 career points.

Oh, you meant Ovechkin.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by AC

Malkin has 1141 career points.

Oh, you meant Ovechkin.

Ah, that makes sense. I was confused about Crosby and Malkin having a career rivalry.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Should stop chasing the individual awards. From here in, you get paid on how you do in the playoffs.

So they should stop scoring for the rest of the season? Still games left guy...only you could make a 100 point season a bad thing.