11-04-2021, 06:09 AM
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#81
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Lifetime Suspension
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I hope it was that the Sabres were in love with Tuch/Krebs
And not that we drew the line at x prospect. Any of our prospects should be available in a trade like this. Absolutely none of them are a sure thing and, ultimately, only one or two will make the dance and even less will be difference makers.
Never value potential over proven elite skill.
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11-04-2021, 06:10 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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As much Treliving didn’t close, the big loser here is Buffalo. They could’ve had more for Eichel a couple months ago, and instead dithered and delayed for this today. Adam’s is the guy who should be fired for this.
And the Flames have another issue here. Starting out super hot doesn’t exactly make you want to blow things up. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have done this, because I think they should have, but there’s a risk there that you trade away pieces today and pay for that this year.
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11-04-2021, 06:10 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Holy crap. Failure of Flames management!? Bunch of whiney babies here. Thank the gods he went to Vegas. Watch them ruin themselves because of this trade.
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11-04-2021, 06:10 AM
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#84
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Tuch has a lot of value because Vegas believed in him and signed him to a long contract.
That's the contract that Mangiapane should have had a while ago.
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That is close to what Mangiapane will sign to. Don't be fooled by his shooting percentage. Mangi isn't getting more than $5 million a year on a long term deal.
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11-04-2021, 06:11 AM
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#85
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
That is close to what Mangiapane will sign to. Don't be fooled by his shooting percentage. Mangi isn't getting more than $5 million a year on a long term deal.
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I think you are out of touch big time.
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11-04-2021, 06:12 AM
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#86
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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I’m honestly glad this saga is over
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11-04-2021, 06:12 AM
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#87
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Guess the Popowich Tweet can be taken at face value now.
He was probably venting his frustration that Vegas was at an advantage with their LTIR situation. They didn't need to clear out the same amount of money to consummate the trade that the Flames would have.
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I also think some of their injuries were convenient timing.
A little nudge nudge to their doctors.
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11-04-2021, 06:12 AM
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#88
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Tuch has a lot of value because Vegas believed in him and signed him to a long contract.
That's the contract that Mangiapane should have had a while ago.
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It takes two parties.
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11-04-2021, 06:12 AM
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#89
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
As much Treliving didn’t close, the big loser here is Buffalo. They could’ve had more for Eichel a couple months ago, and instead dithered and delayed for this today. Adam’s is the guy who should be fired for this.
And the Flames have another issue here. Starting out super hot doesn’t exactly make you want to blow things up. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have done this, because I think they should have, but there’s a risk there that you trade away pieces today and pay for that this year.
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Hot start should change nothing.
it's about the long game.
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11-04-2021, 06:12 AM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Honestly this is a situation where you know your biggest playoff obstacle is the other team contending for this elite player and you can’t pony up more than that. So what does that say about how serious this team is about actually contending.
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11-04-2021, 06:13 AM
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#91
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Truculent!
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I don't get how Vegas fits Eichel.
He has to fit without LTIR before they move him to LTIR.
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11-04-2021, 06:13 AM
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#92
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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not sure if this will make people on here angrier but Tuch is on LTIR too.
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11-04-2021, 06:13 AM
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#93
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Thank the Lord this is done.
Happy we didn't send assets to Buffalo in exchange for a "wait and see" situation.
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11-04-2021, 06:14 AM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
I have to think Treliving wasn't actually interested and just wanted to drive up the price. He could have easily beat this package involving Monahan as the centrepiece.
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If Monny was the centrepiece, Calgary was not going to beat any deal.
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11-04-2021, 06:14 AM
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#95
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loob job
Friedman was on Toronto radio this morning and said he thinks the Sabres asked for Tkachuk and the Flames said no, not the other way around where the Flames were offering him. My guess is we offered Monahan, a prospect and a first and the Sabres liked Krebs alot better than the prospect we offered. Plus the Monahan contract talk above. If it would have been two firsts instead of one maybe that would have done it.
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Thats a disappointment. Tkachuks good but not good enough to be an untouchable for Eichal. Sometimes these gm's overvalue their players so much. Tkachuk could easily turn into a meh asset if he asks for 10 million+.
Really disappointed. I knew it was too good to be true. Thats the life of a Flames fan.
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11-04-2021, 06:16 AM
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#97
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
Obviously not as good as the Vegas offer. Therefore fail.
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Again, if Buffalo indeed held Krebs at a higher rate than any Flames prospect and that’s who they wanted there’s not much BT can do.
Just because some posters on a fan site think our prospects are as good or better doesn’t matter at all. If Buffalo had their sights set on Krebs and Vegas threw in some other players and picks it is not surprising in the least the deal was done.
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11-04-2021, 06:16 AM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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So, is there no protection on the 1st? Knights are currently 7th in the division and just traded for an injured player.
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11-04-2021, 06:17 AM
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#99
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Crash and Bang Winger
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That's good news if only to put an end to all these high and mighty self appointed GMs and this silly string. When someone posts "we have no balls" who the heck are "we"??? Last time I checked no one here works for Treliving. Posting over and over and over and over again doesn't make one a Hockey genius. It just means you don't have an actual life.
PS Going to the game tonight.
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11-04-2021, 06:17 AM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owee18
If the NHL lets this trade go thru it will make them look like idiots. Complete cap circumvention. Vegas will not be able to play everyone once healthy till playoffs. This is worse then what Tampa did last year. Complete joke
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There is no cap circumvention at this time as Eichel is on LTIR. How could the NHL not let it go through?
You can't punish a team for what they may do in the future LOL.
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