What is the right price for Eichel?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Medical science has greatly improved since the days of Roberts and Mario

If an MMA fighter can have a successful surgery so can Eichel

I don't think anyone is saying it is impossible. What they are saying is that the sample size isn't there to draw any conclusive data from.

[traptor]

Would try and keep Dube if possible.

Buffalo - Calgary:
Zadorov (can be flipped at the deadline)+ Monahan (flipped to third team) + Zary + 1st (2022 or 2023 with some protection) + 2022 2nd - Eichel

3rd team (Senators/Bruins/Wild/etc...) - Buffalo
Some combo of a pick/B forward prospect/Young forward with upside - Monahan
E.G Ridley Greg + 2022 2nd (lightning) - Monahan
Debrusk + 2022 2nd - Monahan (2m retained)

[Vinny01]

Here are my 2 offers

Monahan, Valimaki, Zary, 1st 22, 2nd 22
Or
Monahan, Dube, Pelletier, 1st 22, 2nd 22

I could bend on protections or the mix of young roster player and prospect to get the deal done.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Clicks into Eichel thread
Complains about Eichel posts
Kind of an asshat move if you ask me

Clicks on Eichel thread
Kind of an asshat move to
Bitch about the thread


Sorry, just had to fix your haiku.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Some thoughts on this and the package the Flames should be entertaining giving up.


1) Which of the roster players is going. Obviously Monahan is on his way out. But who goes with him? Dube? Mangiapane? Valikmaki? What combo?

2) The Flames have to determine whether Dube is a center or a wing. I don't see an effective center in him, so I think he is best served staying on LW, and predominantly in the third LW slot. Because the Flames will be losing a center they may be inclined to sit on the centers in development they have, which means you keep Zary. He also provides a little more flexibility in being able to play that LW slot.

3) This also depends on what they think of Tkachuk? Is he a RW, or is he a LW. I think he hasn't been overly effective on the RW and his foot speed may not be the best thing for that line. If the Flames feel he's a RW, and they are going to move Dube, there is a gap on the left side that needs to be filled, which means you want to keep Pelletier.

Taking it all into consideration I would be most comfortable with:

1) Monahan, Dube, Valimaki, with a conditional 1st, and conditional 2nd as a kicker - the conditions being that if Eichel comes back and plays more than 20 games this season, the pick is a 1st, otherwise they get a 2nd round pick.

or

2) Dube, Valimaki, Zary, 1st in 2022, conditional 1st or 2nd in 2023 - conditions being that if Eichel comes back and plays more than 70 games in 2022-23, the pick is a 1st, otherwise they get a 2nd round pick.

Anything beyond those, I'm not sure I would be inclined to make the deal. A lot of risk there.

[Roof-Daddy]

I've said for a while now:

1. Monahan
2. One of Dube or Valimaki
3. One of Pelletier, Zary or Coronato
4. Lottery protected 1st in 2022 / if it wins the lottery then pick becomes 2023 unprotected 1st


Because it's taken so long though, the Flames likely need to send some more salary back to make it work. So Zadarov would fit that bill, but then it can't be Valimaki and would have to be Dube instead.

Flames should get a pick back though IMO.

Monahan, Zadarov, Dube, Pelletier/Zary/Coronato, lottery protected 2022 1st for Eichel and a 3rd rounder

I've also said that I wouldn't be surprised if a key thing gumming up the works is Monahan being unwilling to waive his NTC for Buffalo, which if that's the case I really don't even want to know about it....ever.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by stamps

Backlund to SJ for Kane and their 1st ..... Chuky our 1st and SJ 1st for Eichel

WTF?!? Evander Kane? Why? Maybe if the Sharks include Brent Burns in that deal cuz Kane ain't playing in a Flames uniform. This must be a joke!