[Signing] Sens sign Brady Tkachuk (7 yrs, $8.214 mil AAV)

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

There are 13 players in the NHL with an AAV of $10M or higher. Tkachuk isn't anywhere as good as any of them.

It doesn’t matter what you think

The Tkachuk are not taking discount

If Brady can get this, Matt will want 9M+ with 1 yr left before free agency

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

People looking at points per game like that’s all that Brady brings. Kid throws 8 hits a game.

I think he’s a better skater as well.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

People looking at points per game like that’s all that Brady brings. Kid throws 8 hits a game.

Exactly . Same with Matthew

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Exactly . Same with Matthew

Uhhhh no.

248 vs. 132 last season
303 vs. 122 the season before.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

There are 13 players in the NHL with an AAV of $10M or higher. Tkachuk isn't anywhere as good as any of them.

And over the course of the next 6-8 years there will be a whole lot more than 13.

[theinfinitejar]

This is huge for Ottawa. It's an overpayment, but for that franchise to show that they can actually do what it takes to keep a star player around is more important than a million bucks a year.

[The Familia]

Gross. I wouldn't bring Matthew back for anything over $8 million a season. Not a fan of his disinterested play and negative attitude over the last couple seasons. Not to mention his production has been subpar. Nothing he has done has warranted that type of money. If that is the going rate than the system has fallen apart again and contracts will once again spiral out of control (if they haven't already).

[TheScorpion]

Matthew has easily been worth $8 million per year for the last 3+ seasons... the cap isn't $39 million anymore

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Gross. I wouldn't bring Matthew back for anything over $8 million a season. Not a fan of his disinterested play and negative attitude over the last couple seasons. Not to mention his production has been subpar. Nothing he has done has warranted that type of money. If that is the going rate than the system has fallen apart again and contracts will once again spiral out of control (if they haven't already).

You are incredibly out of touch. This is easily the going rate in today's NHL for a player of M. Tkachuk's calibre.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

People looking at points per game like that’s all that Brady brings. Kid throws 8 hits a game.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think he’s a better skater as well.

He is simply more intense, all around. He's more of a power forward where Matthew is more of a talented pest.

Monahan used to outscore Barkov as well, but at the time, there was no question that the latter had components to his game that everyone knew would bring more value.

That is an extreme example and the differences between the two Tkachuks might not be as big of a gap as that, but I think Brady brings more to the game than Matthew, points be damned. In a few years, I predict there will be no question that Brady is the better overall player.

[TheScorpion]

Barkov has always been a way better two-way player than Monahan, though. Brady is *not* good defensively and he's a worse driver of offensive play than Matthew.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He is simply more intense, all around. He's more of a power forward where Matthew is more of a talented pest.

Monahan used to outscore Barkov as well, but at the time, there was no question that the latter had components to his game that everyone knew would bring more value.

For all of two seasons, and all before Barkov had turned 20 years old. And there has always been questions about whether Brady Tkachuk could out-perform his older brother in the NHL.

[theinfinitejar]

Matthew outscored Brady while playing on a line that went head to head with the other teams top lines and munched them more often than not. Grass really is greener I guess.

[1qqaaz]

The thing with both Tkachuks is that neither of them have really progressed at all in the past 3 years.

Both of them hit their career high 3 years ago.

Brayden Point produces almost twice as much as only gets 1.2 mill per season more. Point's contract is almost entirely UFA years. Brady's is mostly RFA.
How is Ottawa supposed to compete with Tampa when the contract disparity is this huge.

[WCW Nitro]

Tka-ching

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The thing with both Tkachuks is that neither of them have really progressed at all in the past 3 years.

Both of them hit their career high 3 years ago.

Brayden Point produces almost twice as much as only gets 1.2 mill per season more.
How is Ottawa supposed to compete with Tampa when the contract disparity is this huge.

Well in general NHL forwards peak earlier offensively than fans think they do.

I have a theory that sons of former NHLers peak even earlier for what I feel are obvious reasons.

Going to be tough for any Canadian team to compete with states that have no income tax. It's better than it was pre-cap.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The thing with both Tkachuks is that neither of them have really progressed at all in the past 3 years.

Both of them hit their career high 3 years ago.

Brayden Point produces almost twice as much as only gets 1.2 mill per season more. Point's contract is almost entirely UFA years. Brady's is mostly RFA.
How is Ottawa supposed to compete with Tampa when the contract disparity is this huge.

to be fair, the last two seasons were shortened, so it would be rare for a player to hit their career high during those seasons. Brady had his best production last season.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Well in general NHL forwards peak earlier offensively than fans think they do.

I have a theory that sons of former NHLers peak even earlier for what I feel are obvious reasons.

Going to be tough for any Canadian team to compete with states that have no income tax. It's better than it was pre-cap.

Yes, I recall reading an article about most forward HOFs peaking at 24.
Surprisingly young.

Originally Posted by Geeoff

to be fair, the last two seasons were shortened, so it would be rare for a player to hit their career high during those seasons. Brady had his best production last season.

True. My point is, their production hasn't increased much if at all.

Batherson had the same totals as Brady. Batherson signed a 6 year deal for a bit less than 5 mill per. Interesting comparison.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Zoller

I wonder what veteran players are going to say about these RFA deals during the next CBA negotiations.

Guys who could secure 1 or 2 year contracts in the low millions are now settling for league min or getting pushed out all together.

I doubt the GMs like the situation either tbh.

This was predicted when the latest CBA was reached. It has taken a while to play out, but the NHL is moving to an NBA type salary structure where the stars bank big $$$ and everyone else fights over the scraps. I do wonder how the NHLPA feels about this evolution. The stars are greatly outnumbered, but they might have outsized clout.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Uhhhh no.

248 vs. 132 last season
303 vs. 122 the season before.

I meant both Tkachuks are more than just points

Matt may not hit as much but he brings other bull#### stuff….good or bad depends on your taste lol 😂