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Old 10-12-2021, 01:12 PM   #81
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Level of play? No. Ability to play at all? Yes. In other words, if the concussion keeps you out, you are out for NHL, AHL or anywhere. If you are able to play I don't think it hinders your game, aside from getting back to game speed.
Nope.

We've seen guys who get concussions who don't return to the same level as pre-concussion.

Just because you "Can play" doesn't mean you are at the same level you were before injury.
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:19 PM   #82
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Nope.

We've seen guys who get concussions who don't return to the same level as pre-concussion.

Just because you "Can play" doesn't mean you are at the same level you were before injury.
Like who? Sid was his old self after a couple issues. IIRC Lindros played the same way. He just has at risk to be out again. Ferland was NHL worthy. But Sven came back and was sent to the AHL.
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You guys are arguing over Baertschi. Just stop. Geez.
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:28 PM   #84
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So have we decided concussions do (ex. Markstrom, Lindros) or do not (Baertschi) affect level of play?
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:29 PM   #85
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Like who? Sid was his old self after a couple issues. IIRC Lindros played the same way. He just has at risk to be out again. Ferland was NHL worthy. But Sven came back and was sent to the AHL.
Guys like Lindros and Kariya were still good, but they were never quite at the level they were at prior to their concussions.

The elite of the elite tend to be able to make it work, because they were that good, but I think for guys that are tweeners or mid-tier NHLers it can really hurt their ability to think and see the game at a high level and at the speed required.

A guy like Daniel Tkaczuk is the example for me. He looked amazing before all his concussions in both the AHL and in his limited NHL time.

And he still played for another 10 years in Europe and across different leagues, but he just wasn't the same guy anymore.
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You guys are arguing over Baertschi. Just stop. Geez.
there is no argument...he wasn't fantastic unless you are being a fanboy

at his very best he was an everyday NHLer for a year or so
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Big opportunity for Barre Boulet. This is a team where he could see top six time as a waiver pickup, and I don't think that would happen even in Anahiem or Buffalo.
Just noticed he was re-claimed by Tampa. When a player gets waived again does his original team get first right?
Also surprised Seattle didn't give him more of a chance.
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It's almost as if they don't actually want Barre-Boulet on their teams, they just want the idea of Barre-Boulet on their teams.
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Classic too good for AHL duty, not good enough for top-six NHL duty-ala Austin Czarnik.
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Just noticed he was re-claimed by Tampa. When a player gets waived again does his original team get first right?
Also surprised Seattle didn't give him more of a chance.
No, nobody wanted him. Too slow like Gawdin
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Just noticed he was re-claimed by Tampa. When a player gets waived again does his original team get first right?
Also surprised Seattle didn't give him more of a chance.
Yes and if the original team is the only one to make a claim they can now send him down to the AHL.
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Just noticed he was re-claimed by Tampa. When a player gets waived again does his original team get first right?
Also surprised Seattle didn't give him more of a chance.
No, its the same waiver order. Bad teams would have had first dibs again.

However, if the original team was the only team to put in a claim, the player can be sent to the AHL without going on waivers again
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Like who?
Daniel Sedin went from Art Ross to getting an elbow to the face and never scored at a point per game pace ever again.
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Daniel Sedin went from Art Ross to getting an elbow to the face and never scored at a point per game pace ever again.
3 of the next 4 seasons he was pretty close. And he did turn 30 that year.
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3 of the next 4 seasons he was pretty close. And he did turn 30 that year.

His shooting % dropped like a rock. He was never the same guy after that elbow. Duncan Keith missed 0 play-off games.


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Old 10-23-2021, 07:11 PM   #96
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His shooting % dropped like a rock. He was never the same guy after that elbow. Duncan Keith missed 0 play-off games.


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Yes he is. Always has been. But now that’s all he has.
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