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Old 09-10-2021, 12:38 PM   #81
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I don't see any recent moves by Brad as because of Sutter. Do you think a cup winning coach demands his GM fill up his roster with ineffective & over the hill players with toughness? He wants good players, he said on garbage day the group wasn't as good as the org thought they were. He wants a team that can play with pace - said that many times in post game press conferences. I don't see Brad's moves addressing his concerns.
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Darryl didn't tell him to overpay a 7th d man by 1.3 million.
Yes he did.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:38 PM   #83
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Yuck.

Hopefully this has Shane Wright in our future. Not even Bead Lambert can rinse this taste out of my team building mouth.
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It's harder to acquire these actual impact players than people think. Once again there are teams doing desperate things like acquiring 38 year old Duncan Keith.

Coleman was likely the biggest fish out there that the Flames could get. The only other UFA that was clearly a bigger deal was Dougie Hamilton, and he's not coming back here.
Nor would the Flames want him back here at that contract. Not like we didn't see what he could do offensively. Still not a player I would want on my team.
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As for the price, there is this thing called a market.

I'm sure if Treliving could have signed Guddy for $750k, he would have.

You don't go down to the grocery store and pay $10 for the last bottle of Coke unless someone else is willing to pay $9.99.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:41 PM   #86
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Then let them pay $9.99... it's Erik Gudbranson.
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The flames motto 'always earned, never given' is laughable as each and every !@#$% year we dish out this garbage to random players that are obviously gonna fall flat on their faces. I'm ashamed of this org right now. Every !@#% year. Tomorrow he's going to sign yesterday's troy brouwer.
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Let's put it another way. When everyone and their dog knew the Flames needed to make changes, they probably didn't envison losing their #1 dman to expansion and replacing him with Coleman, Zadorov, and swapping out a whole bunch of spare parts with more expensive, older, slower spare parts.
No one with an actual job in the NHL expected them to do much. Trades for the sake of trades is how people get fired.

Goal for this year is to see how our defense develops without Gio and figure out the long term plan for Tkachuk and Gaudreau.

We were never going to be anything more than a bubble team.
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As for the price, there is this thing called a market.

I'm sure if Treliving could have signed Guddy for $750k, he would have.

You don't go down to the grocery store and pay $10 for the last bottle of Coke unless someone else is willing to pay $9.99.

You leave that coke bottle on the shelf.
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It's actually astonishing how bad Gudbranson is.
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How does this signing make any sense after picking up a better version of him in Zadorov?
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As for the price, there is this thing called a market.

I'm sure if Treliving could have signed Guddy for $750k, he would have.

You don't go down to the grocery store and pay $10 for the last bottle of Coke unless someone else is willing to pay $9.99.
And then you show the last bottle of "Coke" you just scored to your wife:

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Old 09-10-2021, 12:44 PM   #94
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I wanted to believe that when Sutter was brought in, it was just to coach. But this whole summer has "Darryl Sutter is calling the shots now" written all over it, and Treliving is just serving as a figurehead for the day to day stuff.

Like, I actually haven't been this perplexed by an offseason's direction since Darryl was GM, and my gut tells me that's no coincidence.
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The flames motto 'always earned, never given' is laughable as each and every !@#$% year we dish out this garbage to random players that are obviously gonna fall flat on their faces. I'm ashamed of this org right now. Every !@#% year. Tomorrow he's going to sign yesterday's troy brouwer.
They're on their 4th head coach since that was the motto.
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Why are people thinking this is a Sutter signing? This is typical Treliving. Every off season he goes out and gets useless 4th liners and 7th d men.
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remember when everybody was super excited when Darryl came back? Sigh. This offseason has been nothing but pain.
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They're on their 4th head coach since that was the motto.
Well I guess they should change their motto to 'suck balls on another team, get signed by the flames'
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I feel like the Flames will sign Gudbrandson
Lol called it. Not great but "truculence"
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we're going full Pain for Shane / ####e for Wright my friends. this is sneaky good long term planning.
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